"Toronto Blessing"

[Reazzurro90]

What's all of your views on the Toronto Blessings (AKA, "Holy Laughter, Drunk in the Spirit, loud howling, etc")? Is it of God, of Satan, or of man?

Personally, I think it's definitely NOT of God.

 

[Andry]

What's all of your views on the Toronto Blessings (AKA, "Holy Laughter, Drunk in the Spirit, loud howling, etc")? Is it of God, of Satan, or of man?

Personally, I think it's definitely NOT of God.

That was 10 years ago now. Were you there? Or did you just hear about it? Has the church now become the church of satan? Has it fallen down because of its sin? Are the people there now worshipping Baal or other pagan gods?

 

[Reazzurro90]

That was 10 years ago now. Were you there? Or did you just hear about it? Has the church now become the church of satan? Has it fallen down because of its sin? Are the people there now worshipping Baal or other pagan gods?

The fact that it's first appearance into the limelight was in 1994 makes no different on the affect of their belief. Heck, in 1997 they received a "revelation" that you should have a pretend sword, and shake it around while babbling battle cries. These kinds of extra-biblical doctrine need to be watched out against.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

The pride of men needed a dunking.
Welcome to foolishness land.

 

[Andry]

The fact that it's first appearance into the limelight was in 1994 makes no different on the affect of their belief. Heck, in 1997 they received a "revelation" that you should have a pretend sword, and shake it around while babbling battle cries. These kinds of extra-biblical doctrine need to be watched out against.

You still didn't answer the questions.

What next, were the Quakers 300 years ago from God or not? Who are you trying to pick on and for what purpose?

 

[merryheart]

I put other, cuz I have seen manifestations of all 3 sources.

 

[Christina M]

What's all of your views on the Toronto Blessings (AKA, "Holy Laughter, Drunk in the Spirit, loud howling, etc")? Is it of God, of Satan, or of man?

Personally, I think it's definitely NOT of God.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I will tell you that once you experience something...you will be less quick to judge.

Try it.... you might like it.

A merry heart doeth good like a medicine.....

 

[swifteagle]

What's all of your views on the Toronto Blessings (AKA, "Holy Laughter, Drunk in the Spirit, loud howling, etc")? Is it of God, of Satan, or of man?

Personally, I think it's definitely NOT of God.

Well, you clearly don't have ANY idea about the Toronto Blessing if you have reduced it to "holy laughter, drunk in the Spirit and loud howling."

 

[Sabertooth]

I voted other.

Prior to Toronto, I have seen "laughter" that seemed to be of God.

In my exposure to people who have been there, the laughter and roaring seem to be off. Also, I have seen some of Toronto leadership, on camera, making some quite unorthodox claims about what is necessary to get saved.

 

[godson777]

Personally, I think it's definitely NOT of God.

Personally, I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

1 John 4:1-3
1Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

If this was a move of the devil, it would be impossible for these people to come out of their holy laughter and come back from being slain in the spirit and then say that Jesus is Lord and worship him. No one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit. However, we know that these people were worshippers of God and they did confess Jesus as their Lord and saviour!

As for it being of man... Maybe some people were putting it on so that they weren't the only people standing there doing nothing, but the FAR MAJORITY was definitely NOT from man. Who would honestly start barking like a dog because they thought it would look cool? Also, its very hard to look at it from the outside and say what is the cause of it. When you experience it for yourself, you will know.

Just because you have not experienced much of the prescence of God and a move of God like this does not mean that it doesn't happen and isn't from God. Don't base truth on your emotions and experiences. Base it on the Word.

 

[Questioning Christian]

I have never been to Toronto, but I feel I can safely say that there, as with any revival, there is a mixture of true Spirit power, and the devil coming in to try to counterfeit.

I refuse to label any of these wild revivals as "categorically from God" or as "categorically from Satan".

Eat the hay, and leave the sticks. You will see the good, the bad, and the ugly.

 

[FireOfGod]

What's all of your views on the Toronto Blessings (AKA, "Holy Laughter, Drunk in the Spirit, loud howling, etc")? Is it of God, of Satan, or of man?

Personally, I think it's definitely NOT of God.

Haha! Then you've never had a taste of it! If you were pinned to the floor, drunk off your rocker, feeling the way you feel, you would know it could only be God. Or if you were laughing uncontrolably as if you had just heard or saw the absolute funniest thing on the planet, wore your voice out, and it was fine the next day, you'd know it was God.

It may not all be God... But a great bit of it is. It's pretty obvious when someone's fakin' it.

If you've never experienced it, it's hard to believe. But it's real. That's all I can say.

 

[Jillymac]

I have seen manifestations when people have been touched by the Holy Spirit that involved laughter (funniest thing - u can't help but laugh with them), those who look drunk under the spirit and all different kinds of things...I believe the Holy Spirit can react with different people in different ways.

With regards to the "Toronto Blessing" i have heard many things about it. I have seen many people who have been touched by the "Toronto blessing" and to be honest it's not something i would want to be a part of. Now this is my own opinion and many others that i know. i have friends who are touched by it and i've seen how the manifestations occur, it's quite different. The most common manifestation i've noticed (having also seen a conference on tv as well as in real life) they all say "Hoa!".

Now i've seen the Holy Spirit at work and many can be vocal but there is something different about the Toronto blessing. I've spoken to a couple of watchmen prophets and they said they have been warned against it.

That's just my 2p's worth.

 

[12volt_man]

What's all of your views on the Toronto Blessings (AKA, "Holy Laughter, Drunk in the Spirit, loud howling, etc")? Is it of God, of Satan, or of man?

Personally, I think it's definitely NOT of God.

And you would be right.

The Bible tells us that there will be men creeping into the church and sowing destructive _______.

Welcome to Toronto.

 

[catlover]

The fact that it's first appearance into the limelight was in 1994 makes no different on the affect of their belief. Heck, in 1997 they received a "revelation" that you should have a pretend sword, and shake it around while babbling battle cries. These kinds of extra-biblical doctrine need to be watched out against.

Who's idea was the pretend sword?

 

[12volt_man]

Personally, I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

1 John 4:1-3
1Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

If this was a move of the devil, it would be impossible for these people to come out of their holy laughter and come back from being slain in the spirit and then say that Jesus is Lord and worship him.

But didn't the demons acknowledge that Jesus is Lord when He drove them out of the pigs?

 

[catlover]

i have friends who are touched by it and i've seen how the manifestations occur, it's quite different. The most common manifestation i've noticed (having also seen a conference on tv as well as in real life) they all say "Hoa!".

Now i've seen the Holy Spirit at work and many can be vocal but there is something different about the Toronto blessing. I've spoken to a couple of watchmen prophets and they said they have been warned against it.

That's just my 2p's worth.

What is "hoa!" supposed to mean???

 

[12volt_man]

I put other, cuz I have seen manifestations of all 3 sources.

But are any of these practices supported by scripture?

 

[12volt_man]

What is "hoa!" supposed to mean???

Don't know.

When somebody says HUA (or, more commonly spelled Hooah!, that means Heard Understood Acknowledged


Don't know about hoa, though.

 

[lunalinda]

When you experience it for yourself, you will know.

Just because you have not experienced much of the prescence of God and a move of God like this does not mean that it doesn't happen and isn't from God. Don't base truth on your emotions and experiences. Base it on the Word.

Hmmm, not to be nitpicky, but you kinda contradicted yourself there. At first you suggest that an being involved in an experience like this will let someone know that it's from God. And yet, you say not to base truth on emotions and experiences, but on the Word, which I'd agree with. But oh well. *shrug*

At any rate, that's similar to the point I was gonna make anyway. I think when people don't experience things personally, it makes them more hesitant to accept it wholeheartedly. However, the that's also true on the other side of the spectrum. When people actually go through an experience, it's difficult to speak out against it. So both sides feel the exact same way for opposite reasons. I think that's why, no matter WHICH side of the spectrum you're on, it's always best to, as godson777 said, base it on the Word. If you've experienced a Holy Laughter and refuse to see it as ungodly based on your experience of it, then great! Just as long as you keep focus on the Word, and not the experience you've had. Likewise, if you've NOT experienced Holy Laughter and refuse to accept that it's from God, then great, but keep focus on the Word, not your lack of experience of it.

Of course it's easier said than done, no matter which side of the spectrum you're on. But it's still good to try. It's very difficult for me personally. I don't know this holy laughter. Don't know what it's like to speak in tongues. Generally it won't bother me. That is, until someone else might suggest that a lack of experience is "proof" of God's absence. Such things do more harm than good. Experiences have their place, but it's good not to put that place above what the Word says. The Word should always have the final say. Now all that's left to do is not get confused as to what exactly the Word says! But that's another thread.