Well, since the NT writers claimed guidance from God (Jesus) and John actually saw and baptized Jesus I would have to say that Jesus is a fairly reliable witness to himself.
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Eye witness testimony can be good, or it can be really unreliable if an agenda is in place. Also, the NT does not have eye witness accounts, none.
I do not believe everything came from nothing or that biological system can increase on their own. It is the direct opposite of what we find.
So did he have one raven and one dove? Or two ravens and two doves?
Well, since the NT writers claimed guidance from God (Jesus) . . .
and John actually saw and baptized Jesus I would have to say that Jesus is a fairly reliable witness to himself.
Well, since the NT writers claimed guidance from God (Jesus) and John actually saw and baptized Jesus I would have to say that Jesus is a fairly reliable witness to himself.
That simply isn't true. There is plenty of "increase" in biology through evolution. Antibiotic resistance, resistant forms of tuberculosis, nylonase bacteria, Lenski's E. coli metabolizing citrate...
Mohammad also claimed guidance from God. Zoroaster claimed guidance from God. The Greeks and Romans claimed guidance from their gods.
If you want to try to convince yourself that those are improvements or increases in complex biological systems, knock yourself out.
On the other hand, maybe you just don't realize what you are saying.
Well, since the NT writers claimed guidance from God (Jesus) and John actually saw and baptized Jesus I would have to say that Jesus is a fairly reliable witness to himself.
I've read Mohammad's writings. He does not claim that. Have you read those works you cited?
As I said, either a male and female dove or seven male and female doves.
You can read all this in Genesis. Why ask me other than to try to bait me?
Then why the ravens? If ravens and doves are both part of the birds-that-can-fly kind, then why would he have both ravens and birds?
To try to get an answer. And according to Gen 7:3, Noah took birds in seven pairs. So, if he took seven pairs of birds (that-can-fly kind of birds) was it a pair of doves, a pair of ravens, and then five other pairs of other birds in the birds-that-can-fly kind? Or was it a random hodge-podge of birds-that-can-fly?
2:2 This Book, there is no doubt in it, is a guide to those who guard (against evil).
2:3 Those who believe in the unseen and keep up prayer and spend out of what We have given them.
2:4 And who believe in that which has been revealed to you and that which was revealed before you and they are sure of the hereafter.
2:5 These are on a right course from their Lord and these it is that shall be successful.
2:6 Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe.
I don't see anywhere that it says those words are from God or that they are God breathed or "thus sayeth the Lord" or "God said".
You got anything else?
The answer is because God created Ravens and Doves as well as other birds on day five.
The answer is because God created Ravens and Doves as well as other birds on day five.
No.OK, here's another question based on that. Did God create all of the birds (that can fly) we have today on day five? Eagles, flamingos, hummingbirds, cormorants, owls, cranes, seagulls, crows, doves, ravens, etc?
We know there was at least one dove and one raven on the Ark.And then he just had 14 of them on the ark, and then after that they all adapted/"evolved" back to that same level of diversity?
You failed to understand the passage. I mean, what can I say? That's written at about the high school level. And it's pretty clearly a transcription of what God said to Mohammad. It's made pretty blatant.
We know there was at least one dove and one raven on the Ark.
Unless a dove and a raven are kinds, I would surmise they slipped aboard prior to the Flood.
Ever go to Wal-Mart and see birds flying around in the rafters?
It has no indication that God said it to him. He is just stating things.
Highlight the words that say it is direct from God.
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