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Too skinny, anything I should be doing?

Ada Lovelace

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What kind of things are you eating?

Calories In/Calories Out isn't as viable of a theory as people thought it was in the past...it's more about where your calories are coming from.

For example, if I were to eat 1500 calories a day that included 300 grams of carbohydrates, I'd gain...if I eat 3,000 calories a day that included less than 50 grams of carbs, I'll drop 5-10 pounds per week.

I've been trying to eat more protein because my hair was falling out (not to an alarming extent noticeable by others, but it was definitely perceptible by me, and it clogged the dorm showers) at the beginning of the year due to weight loss from being sick, and it is supposed to help with regrowth. I used to be a vegan but I now eat fairly copious amounts of dairy and egg products; they're probably the foundation for my diet. I am still getting in carbs, though. For breakfast I have an enormous mug of coffee with a full cup of whole Fair Life milk (higher in protein), coconut oil, cacao powder, and whey protein powder stirred in. I have iced coffee with whole milk and sugar in the raw in the afternoon. I drink a smoothie made with whole Greek yogurt that is high in protein or full fat kefir blended with berries, and frozen spinach almost every day. I usually have another smoothie before dance at night using milk, and protein powder like Naked Whey or Warrior Blend, a banana, and a nut butter, coconut oil, or PB2. I pour this liquid protein they gave me in the hospital into my water bottle every morning and drink it on my way to class / internship.

I'm interning on the other coast this summer, and one of my roommates is from a city about thirty minutes from here. His mom has made it her mission to feed me, and keeps trekking in with dishes like vegetable lasagna, stir-fries with rice, and various baked goods. I thought I would have gained weight from eating her dinners and snacks. I am working out about the same as during the school year, but I'm not biking all over a massive campus throughout the day. My roommates are older, so I've been drinking a bit more alcohol regularly, though not enough that it's problematic or anything. Just wine at the end of the night, or beer. It's another way of getting in calories without having to eat.

Do you think you have lost mostly fat weight or muscle weight?

I think it's mainly fat that I've lost. My clothes aren't fitting properly, but I still have defined muscles. I do acro yoga and can lift people who weigh 15+ pounds more, so I know I'm strong.
 
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I've been trying to eat more protein because my hair was falling out (not to an alarming extent noticeable by others, but it was definitely perceptible by me, and it clogged the dorm showers) at the beginning of the year due to weight loss from being sick, and it is supposed to help with regrowth. I used to be a vegan but I now eat fairly copious amounts of dairy and egg products; they're probably the foundation for my diet. I am still getting in carbs, though.

I can't say what would work for everyone, obviously, but I can tell you what I do in the winter months when my focus is more geared toward putting on mass. Keep my protein at roughly 1gram per pound that I weigh, and keep my carb intake at over 300 grams per day...that seems to work well for me.
 
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I've been trying to eat more protein because my hair was falling out (not to an alarming extent noticeable by others, but it was definitely perceptible by me, and it clogged the dorm showers) at the beginning of the year due to weight loss from being sick, and it is supposed to help with regrowth. I used to be a vegan but I now eat fairly copious amounts of dairy and egg products; they're probably the foundation for my diet. I am still getting in carbs, though. For breakfast I have an enormous mug of coffee with a full cup of whole Fair Life milk (higher in protein), coconut oil, cacao powder, and whey protein powder stirred in. I have iced coffee with whole milk and sugar in the raw in the afternoon. I drink a smoothie made with whole Greek yogurt that is high in protein or full fat kefir blended with berries, and frozen spinach almost every day. I usually have another smoothie before dance at night using milk, and protein powder like Naked Whey or Warrior Blend, a banana, and a nut butter, coconut oil, or PB2. I pour this liquid protein they gave me in the hospital into my water bottle every morning and drink it on my way to class / internship.

I'm interning on the other coast this summer, and one of my roommates is from a city about thirty minutes from here. His mom has made it her mission to feed me, and keeps trekking in with dishes like vegetable lasagna, stir-fries with rice, and various baked goods. I thought I would have gained weight from eating her dinners and snacks. I am working out about the same as during the school year, but I'm not biking all over a massive campus throughout the day. My roommates are older, so I've been drinking a bit more alcohol regularly, though not enough that it's problematic or anything. Just wine at the end of the night, or beer. It's another way of getting in calories without having to eat.



I think it's mainly fat that I've lost. My clothes aren't fitting properly, but I still have defined muscles. I do acro yoga and can lift people who weigh 15+ pounds more, so I know I'm strong.

I may have asked you this before.

Do your siblings, parents, aunts and uncles have similar body types as you? If so, you are likely fighting a genetic battle and have one of those metabolisms that is just off the charts.
 
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I had a friend that had a metabolism like a simmering volcano----she didn't drink milk, she drank half and half, put mayonnaise on everything, used heavy cream, butter, candy bars, sodas, fatty meats--- ate, ate, ate, ate---just to stay about 10-15 lbs underweight!! When she went out dancing, she had to keep eating or she'd end up loosing weight. If she hadn't been so nice, it would have been easy to hate her! I gain weight just breathing!---Nothing she could do about it, she went to doctors--they couldn't help her. This was about 30 years ago so I don't know if doctors have come up with something now.
 
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I can't say what would work for everyone, obviously, but I can tell you what I do in the winter months when my focus is more geared toward putting on mass. Keep my protein at roughly 1gram per pound that I weigh, and keep my carb intake at over 300 grams per day...that seems to work well for me.

Holy macaroni. I'm not consuming anywhere close to 300 grams of carbs a day. I've looked over my logs on MyFitnessPal, on average I eat around 60 grams of carbs and 90 grams of protein. I'm 109 pounds, and can't fathom eating 109 grams of protein. During cooler months I do follow my dietician's recommendation of eating more healthy carbs, but in the summer I loathe eating anything at all.

Do you by chance know of any quality protein powders that are higher in carbs? I've taken medical grade protein like Unjury, which is pretty tasty, but they're actually fairly low in carbs.

I may have asked you this before.

Do your siblings, parents, aunts and uncles have similar body types as you? If so, you are likely fighting a genetic battle and have one of those metabolisms that is just off the charts.

They're all tall, lean, and athletic, but on the lower end of healthy weight ranges for their height rather than underweight. I have Addison's Disease, and that has made it more of a challenge for me. My adrenal gland produces insufficient amounts of cortisol, which is a steroid hormone that helps to control the body's use of fats, proteins, and carbs. It zaps my appetite and can cause abdominal pain. It's why I prefer getting calories in through smoothies and protein shakes than food, which can be more problematic for me.
 
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Holy macaroni. I'm not consuming anywhere close to 300 grams of carbs a day. I've looked over my logs on MyFitnessPal, on average I eat around 60 grams of carbs and 90 grams of protein. I'm 109 pounds, and can't fathom eating 109 grams of protein. During cooler months I do follow my dietician's recommendation of eating more healthy carbs, but in the summer I loathe eating anything at all.

Do you by chance know of any quality protein powders that are higher in carbs? I've taken medical grade protein like Unjury, which is pretty tasty, but they're actually fairly low in carbs.

You can be a little more flexible with the protein number and the protein requirement for men is a little higher than it is for women. When I do the 1 gram per pound I weigh, I'm trying to pack on large amounts of muscle, if I was just trying to retain existing muscle mass, I probably wouldn't need to go quite that high.

However, that 60 grams of carbs thing is going to make it tough to gain weight for you...to put that in perspective, during the times leading up to pool season, my carb intake is 50-60 when I trying to get cut and shed excess weight.

60 grams of carbs would be considered "low carb diet" range so it's going to be very tough to gain on that. (especially if you're staying active)

If you can do it, eat what you're currently eating, but toss in 1-2 servings of rice throughout the day in addition to your current diet. It's a very carb dense food.

You say you're already at 90 grams of protein, for a start, maybe try setting your target at keeping the protein at 90, but also getting your carb intake up to around 120. A serving of rice has around 30 grams of carbs, so like I mentioned before, maybe just an additional serving or 2 of rice throughout the day and that should get you to 120.

As far as a quality protein product that's also high in carbs, you'll want to be very careful with those...like I mentioned earlier, food should always be the foundation of your nutrition goals....but I'll admit there are times when I've either had to miss meals because of work, or other stuff going on, and when I do have to use a supplement, for me personally, I like the ones by "Mutant" (I know...funny name right lol). They make a product called "Mutant Pro 100 Whey" and another called "Mutant Mass"

They all seem to be pretty tasty, and the company is based out of Canada, and from everything I've read, Canada does a slightly better job at regulating their supplements than the US does.

We're not allowed to post links on the forums to sales sites, however, if you want, I can PM you the link of where I order it from (it's a very popular web-based company out of Pennsylvania...probably the most popular for that sort of thing (as well as all things fitness) so you might already know the name lol)
 
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i am trying to exercise, but it's not going so well. I weigh only 119 pounds at age 20. That may have to do with the fact that I have always been underweight for my age--my birthweight was 2 pounds, 4 ounces!

What sort of exercises and foods would bulk me up? There's tons of stuff out there about weight loss, but I have the opposite problem. It's very discouraging to go to the gym, and despite my best efforts and desire to lift as much as I can, everybody else there is stronger than I am and seems to have gotten results. My lack of results discourages me, but it might be my fault since I don't think I work out enough, nor is there anyone there to tell me what or how to do things. So I could be doing everything wrong without even knowing it.

Anything you convert to muscle while young and you neglect when you get older will become fat. Check with your doctor to see if you have a healthy body fat index --- also, get blood work done. And, then speak with a dietitian for advice on maintaining a healthy body fat index. One can move a lot of objects using levers. The goal should be to eat healthy and exercise daily within the limits of your body. Remember, no whatever you do, there will always be someone better at it then you.
 
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Anything you convert to muscle while young and you neglect when you get older will become fat. Check with your doctor to see if you have a healthy body fat index --- also, get blood work done. And, then speak with a dietitian for advice on maintaining a healthy body fat index. One can move a lot of objects using levers. The goal should be to eat healthy and exercise daily within the limits of your body. Remember, no whatever you do, there will always be someone better at it then you.

You need to read up on human physiology.

Muscle does not turn to fat. Muscle atrophys, if left dormant. On the other hand, fat does not turn to muscle. The fat cells either grow or shrink, depending on one's lifestyle.
 
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i am trying to exercise, but it's not going so well. I weigh only 119 pounds at age 20. That may have to do with the fact that I have always been underweight for my age--my birthweight was 2 pounds, 4 ounces!

What sort of exercises and foods would bulk me up? There's tons of stuff out there about weight loss, but I have the opposite problem. It's very discouraging to go to the gym, and despite my best efforts and desire to lift as much as I can, everybody else there is stronger than I am and seems to have gotten results. My lack of results discourages me, but it might be my fault since I don't think I work out enough, nor is there anyone there to tell me what or how to do things. So I could be doing everything wrong without even knowing it.

#1. Diet is the most important. For hard gainers and people with a high metabolism, you'll probably have to consume 5-6 meals per day. You will need to consume both low and high GI carbs. Higher GI carbs are good after your workouts, and are good in the mornings for the first meal of the day(you'll want to take in some low GI carbs as well with them in your first meal). A good portion of your day is going to consist of prepping meals.

#2. Consistency. If you're not being consistent, your body will not have much reason to adapt/change. This means being consistent with your diet and exercise routine.

#3. Exercise routine. Start out with low weight high-volume sets. After around several months, start doing pyramid sets, x10/x8/x6/x4 and increase the weight by 5 lbs. on each set. Once you're able to completely do all of the sets, then you increase the weight. For example, if you're able to do 65 lbs. x10 / 70 lbs. x8 / 75 lbs. x6 / 80 lbs. x4 on a given exercise, then the next time you do it, you would do 70x10/75x8/80x6/85x4. After another several months, you could try starting a routine geared more towards developing power & increasing mass, something along the lines of 5 sets of 5 for each exercise. A 5x5 routine generally consists of fewer exercises, which is a plus, but its going to be much more physically demanding and you'll only focus on back, legs, and chest once in the same week. For example, Mondays could be leg day, Wednesdays could be back/bicep day, and Fridays could be chest/shoulder day. However, if you're still getting significant gains in strength, OR gains in BOTH strength and mass, I would STICK WITH THAT ROUTINE until you hit a plateau. If you're seeing a significant gain in mass, but no strength gains, you're probably consuming too many calories. On your off days when you're not lifting, be sure to do at least 30 minutes of cardio. It shouldn't be anything crazy, but you don't want to end up out of shape. I don't see the point of being able to toss 150+ lbs. across the room a couple times and then be completely whipped from it.

#4. Watching your weight. Get into the habit of weighing yourself at the same time once per week, preferably after waking up in the morning before you eat.

#5. Keep a journal. This way you can record your progress. Some people include all of their meals and what they were able to do in their exercises.

PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS

Avoid them. Even if you're able to find a doctor who is willing to monitor your hormones, liver enzymes, heart, etc., this does nothing regarding the long-term risks. For example, the heart naturally enlarges(along with the sac surrounding it) when you start exercising. Anabolic steroids increases this more than what would normally happen, and when you get older you pay for it depending on how frequently & how much steroids were used since this causes the heart to work less efficiently.

Testosterone production works on a negative-feedback mechanism controlled by the pituitary gland in the brain. When there is sufficient testosterone in the body, the pituitary sends a chemical into the bloodstream signaling to the testes to halt production. When you have such a huge excess of anabolic steroids in your body, the pituitary is going to be chemically signaling non-stop to the testes to cease production(which causes them to atrophy). In the long-term, this can damage that part of your pituitary(or even cause cancer) and/or the testes.
Another thing to be aware of is we are not capable of pharmaceutically producing 100% racemic-free testosterone. Only our bodies can do it. It is the unnatural enantiomers of testosterone that can cause cancers, and when you're a bodybuilder that is taking doses far above that used for hormone replacement therapy, you're putting yourself at risk for cancer later on in life. If you don't know about racemization, look up the chirality of testosterone.
 
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