brightlights said:
I've been talking to a guy who supports this. Here are some verse that he uses to back it up:
Acts 2v4, 33, 39; 10v44-46, John 3v8.
Acts 19v2-6
If I may, I think I would like to post all the verses and then discuss.
John 3
8"The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit."
Born Again in the Judaic Perspective actually represents someone who has a repentant heart from disobeying G-d. The repentant sinner then redirects his life toward G-d's will and he is "born again".
Acts 2
4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance.
If we look at chapter one, we see who is present and what they are doing:
Acts 1 said:
13When they had entered the city, they went up to the upper room where they were staying; that is, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James.
14These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers.
These people were actually Torah-observant Jews who believed in Y'shua as the Messiah (HaMoshiach) prior to the time of Pentecost.
33"Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear.
39"For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself.
Acts 10
44While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message.
45All the circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. Then Peter answered,
Acts 19
2He said to them, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" And they said to him, "No, we have not even heard whether there is a Holy Spirit."
3And he said, "Into what then were you baptized?" And they said, "Into John's baptism."
4Paul said, "John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus."
5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking with tongues and prophesying.
I don't see in any of the Scripture that this person uses that speaking in tongues was a sign of salvation.
I am an advocate of Isaiah 45:22 when it comes to salvation, and it's actually very simple:
22"Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth;
For I am God, and there is no other.
"Turn to ME" is equivalent to "Repent". I don't see anything in there about tongues.
Oh well, to each their own.
Best wishes in your discussions with your friend.
