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If he doesn't believe in treating immigrants with mercy and love then he rejects Catholic teaching.
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If he doesn't believe in treating immigrants with mercy and love then he rejects Catholic teaching.Again, asking for evidence Homan is a cafeteria Catholic.
What does it mean to you to treat immigrants with mercy and love? Does that mean approving of illegal immigration?If he doesn't believe in treating immigrants with mercy and love then he rejects Catholic teaching.
I hear your concern for mercy, but does the Catholic Church teach that breaking federal laws is okay?If he doesn't believe in treating immigrants with mercy and love then he rejects Catholic teaching.
Perhaps you should ask the Catholics who block abortion clinics instead of our good Pope. They have been flouting laws for years, and if they are justified, so are human rights activists.I hear your concern for mercy, but does the Catholic Church teach that breaking federal laws is okay?
I'm asking seriously.
Is it a sin, in the Catholic Church, to break the law and enter into a country illegally?
I would think it would be a sin, but perhaps I am mistaken.
I don't understand what you are saying.Perhaps you should ask the Catholics who block abortion clinics instead of our good Pope. They have been flouting laws for years, and if they are justified, so are human rights activists.
Help me to understand.If he doesn't believe in treating immigrants with mercy and love then he rejects Catholic teaching.
Well, I appreciate your taking the time to respond, and hope that Yarddog will do so also.My own opinion is that non-violent civil disibedience in response to unjust or immoral laws is virtuous. Pro-lifers have done this for decades and resisting unjust deportations is in the same category.
I think you should compare US immigration laws and the newly enacted immigration laws of the Vatican. At the Vatican they take illegal entry seriously. So seriously that they imprison illegal entrants, not just deporting them. The Vatican tells us that we are supposed to be merciful to illegal aliens but they are harsh to illegal aliens, arresting and convicting and imprisoning them when it happens in their own territory.Help me to understand.
What I hear you saying is that an American Catholic has to decide whether to obey the rules of the country, or obey the pope.
Is that how it is for Catholics in America? Is that why there has always been concern about Catholics getting into government positions ... the fear that those Catholics in government will obey the pope rather than the laws of the country?
Applying that logic, then I can see why the pope and Biden got along so well during his presidency, and why those Catholics obeying the pope would have seen Biden as a good president. Biden was running immigration according to Catholic belief (in obedience to the pope), and not according to the laws of America.
... and if all that is so, then I can see how you would see Tom Homan as a cafeteria Catholic, because he is not obeying the pope.
Depends on why they had to come here illegally. As children of God, we are required to love all people.What does it mean to you to treat immigrants with mercy and love? Does that mean approving of illegal immigration?
So gang members who come illegally into the USA and engage in gang activities here are engaged in non-violent civil disobedience? Enlightening.My own opinion is that non-violent civil disibedience in response to unjust or immoral laws is virtuous. Pro-lifers have done this for decades and resisting unjust deportations is in the same category.
Does loving all people mean not holding anyone accountable for anything? Does loving a murderer require that there be no consequences for that murder? Does loving an illegal immigrant require that we ignore their illegal entry?Depends on why they had to come here illegally. As children of God, we are required to love all people.
No, but we are still required to love.I hear your concern for mercy, but does the Catholic Church teach that breaking federal laws is okay?
I would say that it depends on why one felt they had to come here illegally.I'm asking seriously.
Is it a sin, in the Catholic Church, to break the law and enter into a country illegally?
I would say it would be a sin in most cases but being a sin doesn't remove our requirement to be compassionate.I would think it would be a sin, but perhaps I am mistaken.
Can one be compassionately deported? Or is it just evil to deport an illegal immigrant under any circumstances?I would say it would be a sin in most cases but being a sin doesn't remove our requirement to be compassionate.
We should never sin. Just because something is legal doesn't mean that it is okay to do. If a country demanded a Christian to worship their leader, we should be ready to die and refuse.Help me to understand.
What I hear you saying is that an American Catholic has to decide whether to obey the rules of the country, or obey the pope.
The Pope can be wrong, so we don't have to do what they say just because they say something.Is that how it is for Catholics in America?
This has been the case, in the past. Many people felt this way. Our alligence is to God and the Church is to help us understand God, just as when the Apostles were teaching the people about God.Is that why there has always been concern about Catholics getting into government positions ... the fear that those Catholics in government will obey the pope rather than the laws of the country?
Biden is a very kind person but he isn't obedient to the Pope or God in all issues. The Church is Pro-life, in all matters, while Biden has become pro choice over the years.Applying that logic, then I can see why the pope and Biden got along so well during his presidency, and why those Catholics obeying the pope would have seen Biden as a good president. Biden was running immigration according to Catholic belief (in obedience to the pope), and not according to the laws of America.
Cafeteria Catholics pick and choose which doctrines to embrace. This would mean that both, Homan and Biden, are be this.... and if all that is so, then I can see how you would see Tom Homan as a cafeteria Catholic, because he is not obeying the pope.
What should the head of immigration control be doing to show compassion to illegal immigrants?Does he show compassion to immigrants?
No.Does loving all people mean not holding anyone accountable for anything?
No, but sentencing must be just. If we can confine a murderer, to protect innocent people, then the death penalty is not justDoes loving a murderer require that there be no consequences for that murder?
Depends.Does loving an illegal immigrant require that we ignore their illegal entry?
This isn't sentencing. It's simply sending them back over the border they illegally crossed.No.
No, but sentencing must be just. If we can confine a murderer, to protect innocent people, then the death penalty is not just
Depends.
I'm sure they can.Can one be compassionately deported?
I would say no. The Episcopal Bishop did a good job in her sermon at Trump's inaugural prayer service, when she asked Trump to be merciful to immigrants. Most are very law biding after entry. They provide the US with many services.Or is it just evil to deport an illegal immigrant under any circumstances?
The same as he should do to all people.What should the head of immigration control be doing to show compassion to illegal immigrants?
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