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Today's Important Alabama Senate Election

Discussion in 'Prayer Wall' started by AACJ, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. Greg Merrill

    Greg Merrill Well-Known Member Supporter

    United States
  2. AACJ

    AACJ Please Pray

    United States
    With all due respect, sister, the world does not belong to the Devil. Never has, never will. Neither is he the ruler of the world.

    Psalms 47:2-8; Psalms 135:6; Psalms 103:19; Psalms 24:1; Jeremiah 27:5-6; Daniel 4:35; Ezekiel 18:4

    I have found no support for varying degrees or levels of punishment in Hell. Just the opposite. Anyone ending up in Hell will be there for the same reason and under the same conditions. The reason being separation from God by our sin and unrepentance (Isaiah 59:2), this necessarily includes the violation of the Royal command:

    Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind (Matthew 22:37).

    The conditions include: everlasting death, Hellfire, and everlasting separation.

    We are all guilty of having broken this Royal command, and we all have deserved eternal death.

    Luke 13:1 THERE were present at that season some that told him of the Galilæans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
    Luke 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilæans were sinners above all the Galilæans, because they suffered such things?
    Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
    Luke 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
    Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

    Christ is not referring to mortal death in this passage when speaking of "perishing," for obviously, the godly and godless endure mortal death. He is speaking of something that comes after mortal death; namely, the Second Death (Revelation 2:11). Christ is also making it clear that there is no such thing as "sinners that are above all" other sinners; not by God's standard. This would include those offending against Children. I believe that you have partly misunderstood and misapplied the verse you referenced. But maybe you are unsure since you used a question mark?

    We are all guilty of driving those nails into the Lord's hands. We are all the cause of our God-in-the-flesh being massacred on the Cross. We were all sentenced under death. We have all deserved the penalty of everlasting death (Romans 6:23).

    We must not compare our sins with those of Hitler. We must not compare our sins with those of Mother Teresa. Rather, God has judged us all by only one standard: Himself (Romans 3:23). By that standard we have all thought, spoke, and behaved depravedly.

    Let not any Christian think of themselves more highly than they ought by comparing their sins with those of others, neither let us judge unrighteous judgment. (Romans 12:3; 2 Corinthians 10:12; Matthew 7:2).
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2017
  3. drjean

    drjean Senior Veteran Supporter

    United States
    Those who deny abortion is murder are blind to the truth.
    Amazing that such a person was elected Senator (whether by hook or crook who knows).... does he protect eagle eggs but not human, I wonder?

    {I have editted out parts of your post that don't refer to my post.}

    This is most assuredly Satan's domain.

    Luke 4:5 And he led Him up and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said to Him, “I will give You all this domain and its glory; for it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

    1 Peter 5:8 Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

    Revelation 20:1-3
    1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain.
    2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.
    3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended.

    Revelation 2:13 I know where you are dwelling, that is, where the throne of Satan is; and yet you keep holding fast to my name, and you did not deny your faith in me even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was killed by your side, where Satan is dwelling.

    Jesus Himself told of the punishment of those who harm children. And there are references to varying degrees of punishment.

    Matthew 18:6 - But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

    “…anyone who welcomes a little child like this on my behalf is welcoming me…. Beware that you don’t look down on any of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels are always in the presence of my heavenly Father.” (Matthew 18:2-10)

    Luke 17:2 - It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

    Deuteronomy 18:9-13
    “When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord

    Matthew 23:14 “”How terrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You devour widows’ houses and say long prayers to cover it up. Therefore, you will receive greater condemnation!

    Matthew 10:14-15 If anyone doesn’t welcome you or listen to what you say, leave that house or city, and shake its dust off your feet. I can guarantee this truth: Judgment day will be better for Sodom and Gomorrah than for that city.

    Luke 10:14-15 But it will be more bearable in the judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you. And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You shall be brought down to Hades.

    John 19:11 Jesus answered, “You would have no authority over Me, unless it had been given you from above; for this reason he who delivered Me to you has the greater sin.”

    Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.

    Revelation 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.

  4. AACJ

    AACJ Please Pray

    United States
    I did not comment on jones and abortion, but I agree with your comment on abortion.

    What does that mean? That earth belongs to him as a possession? That he rules without limits? We need to get specific. Generalities on this topic are really useless.

    Luk 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
    Luk 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
    Luk 4:7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

    Satan is a liar and the Father of it.

    Does Satan have no limits, nor bounds on his actions? If he does, then he certainly is not sovereign over the earth. So what authority does he have? If he can truly give the world to whomsoever he wills, regardless what God wants--as you seem to be suggesting--then would Satan not be sovereign over the earth? He is not, of course. Therefore, he cannot give the kingdom to whomsoever he wills, without limitations.

    Do you believe that Satan has given leadership of the US to Trump? Did Satan put Joshua in charge of the nation of Israel? No? Did he want Joshua or David as heads over Israel? Of course not. Therefore, his will pertaining to kingdoms was subject to God. So certainly he does not give the kingdoms to whomsoever he wills--outside of God's permissive will. He can only do as God Almighty allows.

    Even Christians can thwart Satan's plans. So why would you think that this world belongs to Satan?

    2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    The above verse is not using "world" in a literal sense (all the natural world and all the inhabitants). Another example: Jas 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." Here James is referencing the godless element in the world, not the world in toto.

    Satan has no discretion to do whatever he wants in the nations. Those verses describing Satan as "God" and "prince" are only referencing the willful godlessness of the majority of souls on the planet. Satan is their father and elected ruler of their lives. He has license to influence this darker element in the world as God allows; but there is no verse describing Satan as a literal God or ruler of the world.
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2017
  5. drjean

    drjean Senior Veteran Supporter

    United States
    The thread IS about AL senate election. Perhaps you can begin your own thread to debate hell other than those who support abortion, as Doug does (new AL senator.)
  6. AACJ

    AACJ Please Pray

    United States
    Yes, you're right. Sorry. Forgot this was on the prayer wall.