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To what extent is training in apologetics necessary to be fully convinced that Christianity is true?

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Is in-depth training in philosophical and historical arguments for the veracity of Christianity a necessary condition for someone to be able to reach an extremely high level of confidence that Christianity is true?

What about people with busy schedules or who do not have access to scholarly literature? What hope do they have to achieve the same level of confidence in the truthfulness of Christianity as someone who does have access to these intellectual resources?

Are there alternative ways to be fully convinced that Christianity is true that do not require going through an intense training in apologetics?
 

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Is in-depth training in philosophical and historical arguments for the veracity of Christianity a necessary condition for someone to be able to reach an extremely high level of confidence that Christianity is true?

What about people with busy schedules or who do not have access to scholarly literature? What hope do they have to achieve the same level of confidence in the truthfulness of Christianity as someone who does have access to these intellectual resources?

Are there alternative ways to be fully convinced that Christianity is true that do not require going through an intense training in apologetics?
Training in order to believe is counterintuitive to the " pricking" of the heart.
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God proves Himself to us, better than any knowledge can come close to doing.

"to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God." (Ephesians 3:19)

But God can use intellectual and scientific stuff. But didn't Jesus say those who have not seen are blessed? So, it might be, how we are more blessed if we believe without requiring what we consider to be intellectual and scientifical evidence.

Because we in Jesus do have God proving Himself "in our hearts" . . .

"Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us." (Romans 5:5)
 
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Is in-depth training in philosophical and historical arguments for the veracity of Christianity a necessary condition for someone to be able to reach an extremely high level of confidence that Christianity is true?

What about people with busy schedules or who do not have access to scholarly literature? What hope do they have to achieve the same level of confidence in the truthfulness of Christianity as someone who does have access to these intellectual resources?

Are there alternative ways to be fully convinced that Christianity is true that do not require going through an intense training in apologetics?

I am not sure…
What it takes for some…. may not be necessary for others…

But if you are looking for Apologetics… I would suggest Bob Dutko’s top 10 proofs. (Links below)

Although I am not into apologetics that much…. and I do not have his series, but on occasion I listen to Bob when I am driving. He is good articulate and makes the complicated easy to understand.


Top Ten Proofs - Christian Apologetics Made Simple

Revised & Updated Products – Top Ten Proofs
 
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Is in-depth training in philosophical and historical arguments for the veracity of Christianity a necessary condition for someone to be able to reach an extremely high level of confidence that Christianity is true?

No. A personal experience of God is far more convincing than mere apologetic "head knowledge."

Apologetic evidence and argument are valuable, but they can't ever replace or make up for a lack of direct personal fellowship with, and knowledge of, God.

What about people with busy schedules or who do not have access to scholarly literature? What hope do they have to achieve the same level of confidence in the truthfulness of Christianity as someone who does have access to these intellectual resources?

Are there alternative ways to be fully convinced that Christianity is true that do not require going through an intense training in apologetics?

One doesn't have to pass through an "intense training in apologetics" in order to gain a thorough knowledge of apologetic evidence and argument. What's the rush? I've been studying the realm of apologetics for twenty years now. It's been very helpful to me in a variety of ways, having done so. But I've taken my time, working at expanding my apologetic knowledge bit-by-bit. My shelves are filled with books by Alvin Plantinga, William Lane Craig, Greg Koukl, Paul Copan, J. Warner Wallace, J.P. Moreland, Gary Habermas, etc. But I've accumulated these texts over years, some of which I still haven't yet read through entirely.

For all my study of things apologetic, it has been my daily experience of God, not the Kalam Cosmological Argument, or Liebniz's Argument from Contingency, or C.S. Lewis's Moral Argument, or even the evidence for the Resurrection that has secured my faith. The daily conviction of the Holy Spirit, his strengthening of me in times of trial and temptation, his illumination of God's word to my heart and mind, his comfort of me when I'm worried, or afraid, or hurting, his transformation of my desires and character, making me holier and more Christ-centered day by day - these are the things that really anchor my faith, that are the core of my confidence as a believer.

Honestly, I don't think a person who has only an apologetic basis for their faith is walking well with God - or can. It is fellowship for which we are intended by our Maker, fellowship with Himself, not merely adhering to, and defending, a set of religious propositions.

Not Just Relationship, Fellowship.
 
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Is in-depth training in philosophical and historical arguments for the veracity of Christianity a necessary condition for someone to be able to reach an extremely high level of confidence that Christianity is true?

No. In Acts 2 - people were converted in a day.

What about people with busy schedules or who do not have access to scholarly literature? What hope do they have to achieve the same level of confidence in the truthfulness of Christianity as someone who does have access to these intellectual resources?

Rom 8:16
16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God,

Rom 2:13-16
13 for it is not the hearers of the Law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the Law who will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles who do not have the Law instinctively perform the requirements of the Law, these, though not having the Law, are a law to themselves, 15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience testifying and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, 16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of mankind through Christ Jesus.

Jesus is "the Way, the TRUTH, and the LIFE" John 14 - anyone who loves Jesus will Love the Word of God and read it... keep on reading it. But need not get into apologetics to an great degree - just to be saved. But they should seek to be "informed enough" in scripture to share a compelling Gospel witness to non-believers and fellow saints.
 
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Hi @TruthSeek3r

While I've spent some time in the study of 'christian' apologetics, I don't think it's any kind of requirement that we do so outside of the Scriptures. First of all, a lot of apologists may not get it either. So one needs to be careful as to 'who' they are going to trust in studying extrabiblical apologists. However, the study of the Scriptures is an endeavor that has been exampled and instructed for us for many, many centuries, even millennia. Many, many of the old covenant prophets speak of reading or 'being in' God's word. Daniel claims to have understood that the Jewish captivity in Babylon would be 70 years based on the writings that he read of Jeremiah. Daniel was in Babylon and Jeremiah was in the still remaining remnant in Jerusalem before the total wipe out of Israel.

Daniel also mentions that he had a regular time of day that he would study the Scriptures that were gathered in his day. Paul writes to Timothy that he should study the Scriptures to show himself approved of God. But I'm fairly confident that all of these examples are of men who had only the Scriptures to study. They didn't have Dr. so-and-so some great theologian or the plethora of authors that write books claiming to make us better understand the Scriptures and thus, the things of God. As I said earlier, we really don't have any idea whether any of these men are or are not correct in their understanding of the things of God.

As an example, in the Left Behind series, we are given a picture of the rapture coming upon the earth in the very first book of the series. The rest of the 10 or so books in the series detail all that continues to happen upon the earth after the rapture. I don't believe that's a correct chronology of the rapture and what happens after it. In it's day many, many, many christians read the Left Behind series and many, many teachers taught a similar understanding of the chronology of the rapture. So, it's a pretty wide held belief these days that the rapture is going to come and then there's going to be a fairly long time in which more people will be saved.

According to the writings of the Revelation of Jesus, in chapter 14 beginning in vs. 14, we find the account of the rapture. There are two beings. One comes first, who looks like the son of man with a crown of gold on his head and has a sickle in his hand. He swings his sickle and harvests part of the earth's inhabitants. We are not told exactly what happens to those people, but we are told exactly what happens to those who are then 'left behind' and harvested by the second being. They are thrown into the winepress of God's wrath! So, this is the picture that I get from this passage of the Scriptures. There will be a rapture of those who believe in Jesus, but pretty shortly after that, everyone who was left is harvested and sent to the place of God's wrath. The Scriptures tell us that none of us, who are believers, will ever face God's wrath. So the point here is that there won't be anyone who chooses Jesus and is saved, after the rapture of the faithful ones who belong to Jesus. Despite the fact that a couple of supposedly very godly men wrote a book series that says there will be.

So, study the Scriptures as a believer, and if you like read some extra biblical commentary. But in the later choice, be very, very careful what you believe and make sure that it conforms with the Scriptures. There are fairly regular warnings found in the writings of just about every writer of the new covenant that warn us of false teachers and false doctrines. They are all around us and many of them stand in pulpits or write books.

As far as using such study to prove to oneself that christianity is true, I'd suggest researching the prophecies of the Scriptures. God has said to us that we will know He is the one true and living God in that all that He foretells will come to pass.

God bless,
Ted
 
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Is in-depth training in philosophical and historical arguments for the veracity of Christianity a necessary condition for someone to be able to reach an extremely high level of confidence that Christianity is true?

What about people with busy schedules or who do not have access to scholarly literature? What hope do they have to achieve the same level of confidence in the truthfulness of Christianity as someone who does have access to these intellectual resources?

Are there alternative ways to be fully convinced that Christianity is true that do not require going through an intense training in apologetics?
You might look for Christian teachings in the New Testament and see if you can practice them. Some had dreams, visions, directions from God and witnessed miracles to help them believe Jesus is real. One may find Christ without being able to prove the Bible is 100% true. There are a plethora of testimonies on the Internet.
 
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Is in-depth training in philosophical and historical arguments for the veracity of Christianity a necessary condition for someone to be able to reach an extremely high level of confidence that Christianity is true?

What about people with busy schedules or who do not have access to scholarly literature? What hope do they have to achieve the same level of confidence in the truthfulness of Christianity as someone who does have access to these intellectual resources?

Are there alternative ways to be fully convinced that Christianity is true that do not require going through an intense training in apologetics?

Most people were illiterate when they heard the Good News in the Bible era and for many centuries afterward. They had no in-depth training in philosophical and historical arguments for the veracity of Christianity. They simply believed the message that they heard. That was all that was necessary then and is all that is necessary now.
 
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You might look for Christian teachings in the New Testament and see if you can practice them. Some had dreams, visions, directions from God and witnessed miracles to help them believe Jesus is real. One may find Christ without being able to prove the Bible is 100% true. There are a plethora of testimonies on the Internet.

This sounds similar to @aiki's advice of having a direct experience of God instead of mere "head knowledge", although you both seem to emphasize different kinds of experiences.
 
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From an evangelical perspective, it matters to the point that the people you evangelize to will care about the questions that apologetics will answer.

From a strengthening of the faith perspective, apologetics can innoculate you against seeds of doubt that the enemy tries to sow.
 
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Is in-depth training in philosophical and historical arguments for the veracity of Christianity a necessary condition for someone to be able to reach an extremely high level of confidence that Christianity is true?

What about people with busy schedules or who do not have access to scholarly literature? What hope do they have to achieve the same level of confidence in the truthfulness of Christianity as someone who does have access to these intellectual resources?

Are there alternative ways to be fully convinced that Christianity is true that do not require going through an intense training in apologetics?
The level of a persons Theological education is not relative to their level of faith. It is well know that Theologians are often far from being the best Christians.
 
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Is in-depth training in philosophical and historical arguments for the veracity of Christianity a necessary condition for someone to be able to reach an extremely high level of confidence that Christianity is true?

How do you know when something is true?

What criteria do you use to determine fact from fiction?

Christianity is based on historical facts, you should know enough to be able to give a reason for what and why you believe.

If you follow web sites like wintery knight, reasonablefaith, appologetics315 and answersingenesis, you will quickly learn basic facts about how true and reliable the bible/Christianity is.
 
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This sounds similar to @aiki's advice of having a direct experience of God instead of mere "head knowledge", although you both seem to emphasize different kinds of experiences.

The experience of the Holy Spirit I described is what the Bible describes is the common, normal experience a truly born-again person should expect to have of God. See:

Conviction: John 16:8-13; Revelation 2:23
Illumination: 1 Corinthians 2:10-16; John 14:26
Strengthening: Ephesians 3:16; Romans 8:13; Philippians 2:13
Comfort: 2 Corinthians 1:3-4
Transformation: Galatians 5:22-23; Ephesians 5:9
Discipline: Hebrews 12:5-11

Any Christian apologist who has never had these experiences with God, with the Holy Spirit, is not, in my view, a genuine believer. S/he has "missed God by eighteen inches" (roughly the distance between one's head and one's heart).

The more...sensational things some believers chase after are, in my opinion, of interest to them because they want a sensual experience of God, more than a spiritual one; they want to feel God in some way and by this means validate their faith in Him rather than deal with God on the basis His word describes, encountering Him as the immaterial Spirit He is, who changes their thinking, desires and heart quite apart from their physical/sensual dimension.
 
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The more...sensational things some believers chase after are, in my opinion, of interest to them because they want a sensual experience of God, more than a spiritual one; they want to feel God in some way and by this means validate their faith in Him rather than deal with God on the basis His word describes, encountering Him as the immaterial Spirit He is, who changes their thinking, desires and heart quite apart from their physical/sensual dimension.

What do you mean by "sensational" and what do you mean by "spiritual"? Can you provide a more formal definition of those terms?

Also, when you talk about having an "experience" with God, what do you mean by "experience"?

Are you talking about a conscious experience, consciousness, awareness? "Feeling something"?
 
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By "sensational" I mean what appeals strongly to one's physical senses in an out-of-the-ordinary way.

The term "spiritual" refers, in my use of the term, to an immaterial, supernatural reality, transcendent to the physical, that is in constant tension with the fleshly and sensual aspects of who we are.

By "experience" I mean what is typically meant by the term. Are all experiences sensual, requiring and defined by a feeling of some kind, by a stimulation of my physical senses? No. When, for example, I am pondering a memorized passage of Scripture and realize something new about it, this experience is not a sensual one but an event of my immaterial mind. When I am convicted of sin by the Holy Spirit, the result may have a physical effect (knot in the stomach, uneasiness, faster breathing, etc.) but the conviction itself is entirely an event of my mind, heart and conscience - all immaterial aspects of myself.

Do I feel a memory when I experience it? No. The memory has no physical properties with which to impinge on my physical senses. The memory may evoke certain emotions but they are the consequence of the memory not the memory itself. Do I, then, feel the experience of remembering? No, only the effects of doing so. Experiences, then, do not require a feeling of some kind.
 
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By "sensational" I mean what appeals strongly to one's physical senses in an out-of-the-ordinary way.

The term "spiritual" refers, in my use of the term, to an immaterial, supernatural reality, transcendent to the physical, that is in constant tension with the fleshly and sensual aspects of who we are.

By "experience" I mean what is typically meant by the term. Are all experiences sensual, requiring and defined by a feeling of some kind, by a stimulation of my physical senses? No. When, for example, I am pondering a memorized passage of Scripture and realize something new about it, this experience is not a sensual one but an event of my immaterial mind. When I am convicted of sin by the Holy Spirit, the result may have a physical effect (knot in the stomach, uneasiness, faster breathing, etc.) but the conviction itself is entirely an event of my mind, heart and conscience - all immaterial aspects of myself.

Do I feel a memory when I experience it? No. The memory has no physical properties with which to impinge on my physical senses. The memory may evoke certain emotions but they are the consequence of the memory not the memory itself. Do I, then, feel the experience of remembering? No, only the effects of doing so. Experiences, then, do not require a feeling of some kind.

Do you make a distinction between "feeling" and "qualia"? See Qualia - Wikipedia

Back to your example of memory, when I remember something, I have a conscious experience of remembering something. I have a conscious experience of hearing a remembered version of the sounds in my consciousness, awareness, mind, whatever you wanna call it, same with images, emotions attached to the memory, etc. A memory is essentially a collection of sounds, images, thoughts, emotions, etc. that were recorded in your brain and that you "make alive" again by bringing them up to your conscious awareness (you remember them, you perceive again the images, the sounds, etc.).

So for me, perceiving something through my physical senses or remembering something or whatever, they all produce conscious experience, they all produce qualia.
 
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Is in-depth training in philosophical and historical arguments for the veracity of Christianity a necessary condition for someone to be able to reach an extremely high level of confidence that Christianity is true?

What about people with busy schedules or who do not have access to scholarly literature? What hope do they have to achieve the same level of confidence in the truthfulness of Christianity as someone who does have access to these intellectual resources?

Are there alternative ways to be fully convinced that Christianity is true that do not require going through an intense training in apologetics?

The Apostle Paul was preaching to a group and Scripture tells us:

"One of those listening was a woman from the city of Thyatira named Lydia, a dealer in purple cloth. She was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul’s message. 15 When she and the members of her household were baptized, she invited us to her home. “If you consider me a believer in the Lord,” she said, “come and stay at my house.” And she persuaded us." Acts of the Apostles 16:11-40

Regeneration that leads to salvation is a work of God, as seen in Lydia's conversion. People may not realize it as a work of God at the time they are converted, but it doesn't make it any less a work of God. This is why we pray for the unsaved; for the message of salvation to reach their heart.

Some people may be converted after one or two Godly encounters with someone knowledgeable, and others may need to study up a bit to come to the point of understanding:

"Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true" Acts of the Apostles 17:11

Regardless of the time or study it takes to come to faith, those who do had their heart opened by God, and God brought them to faith in the best manner for them as individuals, in His own timing.

So in answer to the question, no. One does not need a degree in apologetics to come to faith. One day, everything just falls into the right place and the person is saved.
 
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From an evangelical perspective, it matters to the point that the people you evangelize to will care about the questions that apologetics will answer.

From a strengthening of the faith perspective, apologetics can innoculate you against seeds of doubt that the enemy tries to sow.

IMO, the latter is far more significant than the former.

"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day." -- John 6:44

He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.” -- John 6:65

The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.” -- Acts 16

The Philippian jailer certainly had a pagan belief of creation but was willing to set that aside at that moment of his new faith in Jesus.

If a person is not enabled to receive the gospel, all the clever arguments in the world will not affect them.

If they are enabled to receive the gospel, the gospel is all they need.
 
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