To those who wear fabric masks...

[chevyontheriver]

I've been trying to explain this, but people don't want to believe it. Cloth masks are just an illusion of safety.

Part illusion, part useful. They do catch some of the virus from a sick person. Some.

 

[ewq1938]

They will not stop the virus. But they will stop the exhaled water droplet the virus hitches a ride on. And they will disperse and divert the exhaled air stream. That is what they are getting at. For the umpteenth time.

Not all the virus molecules are going to do that and when the water evaporates the virus will simply flow on through the mask and through the homemade masks others have. Better than wearing nothing? Yes. Are they very effective? No.

 

[blackribbon]

The virus lives for up to 24 hours on a porous surface such as cardboard or fabric, the best fabric being cotton. Porus surfaces hold much less than hard shiny surfaces like plastic or metal. If the mask is only worn once a week there should be no virus whatsoever on it by the next wearing. Not saying don't wash it, but a mask is not a petri dish for the virus.

No, it is a petri dish for bacterial and infections that people may have during this allergy season. The mask isn't disease specific.

 

[ewq1938]

A Beginner's Guide: What is Antimicrobial Fabric?

A Beginner's Guide: What is Antimicrobial Fabric?

 

[sunshineforJesus]

Ive been wearing a fabric mask but do wash it every couple wears.

 

[coffee4u]

No, it is a petri dish for bacterial and infections that people may have during this allergy season. The mask isn't disease specific.

A Petri dish is a shallow transparent lidded dish made of borosilicate glass or clear plastic that is used to grow (multiply) cells such as bacteria or fungi.

Fabric masks do not grow bacteria, the virus is dead and gone after 24 hours. A cotton mask is not a petri dish.

 

[ewq1938]

A Petri dish is a shallow transparent lidded dish made of borosilicate glass or clear plastic that is used to grow (multiply) cells such as bacteria or fungi.

Fabric masks do not grow bacteria, the virus is dead and gone after 24 hours. A cotton mask is not a petri dish.

It's "like" a petri dish and the virus can exist longer than 24 hours on such a mask.

How Long Coronavirus Lives On Clothes, And How To Wash Them

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the coronavirus is usually transmitted through respiratory droplets (from an infected person sneezing or coughing) rather than through fomites, objects and materials that when contaminated can transfer disease. However, the CDC notes that evidence suggests that the novel coronavirus may remain viable for hours to days on surfaces made from a variety of materials, which includes clothing.

 

[coffee4u]

It's "like" a petri dish and the virus can exist longer than 24 hours on such a mask.

How Long Coronavirus Lives On Clothes, And How To Wash Them

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the coronavirus is usually transmitted through respiratory droplets (from an infected person sneezing or coughing) rather than through fomites, objects and materials that when contaminated can transfer disease. However, the CDC notes that evidence suggests that the novel coronavirus may remain viable for hours to days on surfaces made from a variety of materials, which includes clothing.

It lives on cotton for 24 hours. Not talking about nylon or leather here.
It does not live for long extended periods of time on even blended (cotton-poly) fabric compared to metal, glass and plastic. You can wash and wear masks normally and not worry that it has breed from 1 to million through the wash cycle or while sitting in your draw clean, but believe whatever you like.

 

[Hank77]

This was in the NYT but everyone should have access because it's a CoV-19 article.
All about masks, fabrics, etc. links to patterns for mask non-sewn and sewn.

A User’s Guide to Face Masks

 

[Kaon]

Is that really possible? They're in short supply

Oh well that is what panic does.

But it's true. The masks being saved for medical officials has a lifetime of about 6-8 straight hours before they are useless. If you use it intermittently, maybe a day. These are things laypersons aren't told because we do whatever we are told without thinking (like drinking massive amounts of calcium without magnesium - confused as to why we need to see a nephrologist).

In other words, the masks are temporary fixes for an acute situation: they aren't meant to be worn all day. If worn all day, it becomes an accessory after the 8th hour. And, this is if you have no facial hair AND wear the mask properly (which most people are not doing).


Just like buying massive amounts of tissue to feel secure, wearing the same mask every day is an exercise in delusion and illusion of security. Thinking there are enough masks to last 3 months is an exercise in superfluous hope.

 

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[blackribbon]

A Beginner's Guide: What is Antimicrobial Fabric?

A Beginner's Guide: What is Antimicrobial Fabric?

This fabric still needs to be washed. I can't imagine wearing scrubs multiple days. It just inhibits the bacteria the fabric is exposed to how much it grows.

It certainly doesn't "repell" germs (viral, bacterial, or fungal) like I have heard people claim.

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[blackribbon]

It lives on cotton for 24 hours. Not talking about nylon or leather here.
It does not live for long extended periods of time on even blended (cotton-poly) fabric compared to metal, glass and plastic. You can wash and wear masks normally and not worry that it has breed from 1 to million through the wash cycle or while sitting in your draw clean, but believe whatever you like.

A clean mask is not a petri dish. However, a worn one can be...expecially to bacterial or fungal infections. When you exhale, you introduce warm moist air to the mask...a great breeding grown for what ever germs you come in contact with during the time you wear it ... like off your hands when you touch it. Yes, if you let it dry out and don't wear it for several days, it likely isn't growing anything new but still may be a source of fungal spores. It is like underwear. Change it after you use it even if it "looks" clean.

 

[coffee4u]

A clean mask is not a petri dish. However, a worn one can be...expecially to bacterial or fungal infections. When you exhale, you introduce warm moist air to the mask...a great breeding grown for what ever germs you come in contact with during the time you wear it ... like off your hands when you touch it. Yes, if you let it dry out and don't wear it for several days, it likely isn't growing anything new but still may be a source of fungal spores. It is like underwear. Change it after you use it even if it "looks" clean.

Well of course you wash it after using it, but even if you didn't and it just sat for 3 days hanging on a hook in the hall it still would not have Corvid on it, they would have died.
Underwear is hugging the body not airing out away from everything. Again cotton or bamboo is best. Modern society uses far too many plastics.

 

[Jaxxi]

Good point. Wash them.

The common surgical masks are the same way. Reusing them doesn't work either. But they can't be washed. They are disposable and need to be disposed of and a new one used. Only the rarest of respirators is intended for continual reuse.

I see a lot of people using face masks wrong. Maybe it's better than nothing, but often case not much. For one thing that nose thing should be conforming to the bridge of your nose. And a person huffing and puffing through a mask is probably worse off than another person breathing calmly.

I see a lot of glove issues too, where people touch things with their gloves on, then take their gloves off, then touch the same things again. It defeats the purpose. Mostly I see this with cell phones.

Yes...and to the people wearing the mask under their nose?? Really? Why not just cut a hole in it to smoke a cigarette through it! Come on!

 

[blackribbon]

Well of course you wash it after using it, but even if you didn't and it just sat for 3 days hanging on a hook in the hall it still would not have Corvid on it, they would have died.
Underwear is hugging the body not airing out away from everything. Again cotton or bamboo is best. Modern society uses far too many plastics.

You are right. It may not have Covid on it. But it might have microscopic mold growing on it from the moisture of your breathe on it. Covid isn't the only thing in the air. But yes, if you only need your mask every 3 days or so, then the Covid virus likely would die.

As for your underwear, you aren't using it as a filter, which is exactly what a mask is. A filter for moist air full of microscopic bacteria, viruses, and fungi...along with other pollutants.