To Seem, Rather Than To Be? (Trans Ideology)

[TLK Valentine]

Not if gender is sex.

It's not, so...

Taber’s Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary defines gender as “the sex of an individual (i.e., male or female)” and sex as “1. the characteristics that differentiate male and females in most plants and animals. 2. Gender.”5 It’s clear from a medical and scientific perspective that they are the same. Only those who desire to do what is right in their own eyes (Judges 21:25) want to make these terms distinctive in order to justify their sin.

Answers in Genesis again? Some people never learn...

They claim to cite the 2005 version, but how do you know they're not going back to the original 1940?

 

[didactics]

It must be so concerning that I believe gender is sex. Conflating that to the reason for higher suicide rates is unreal.



Try and tell me why this quote is wrong:



Turner’s syndrome occurs in females that have only one X chromosome (XO). Their ovaries typically degenerate before birth, so they do not develop female secondary sex characteristics and are infertile.



Let’s deal with one at a time.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Wow, you just cite one source and think that's all you need?

And the source he's cutting and pasting from AiG, which would get him laughed out of the C/E boards...

 

[TLK Valentine]

It must be so concerning that I believe gender is sex.

People who refuse to learn from their mistakes are often cause for concern.

 

[TLK Valentine]

You want to convince me of gender theory, right?

If we do, will it be enough to convince you to treat the transgender with respect and dignity?

 

[didactics]

If we do, will it be enough to convince you to treat the transgender with respect and dignity?

You must be referring to preferred pronoun usage. Maybe that's what causes high suicide rates. Maybe it's an offense to you. You're certainly not doing a good job of being persuasive. Have you ever heard, you win more bees with honey?

 

[muichimotsu]

Alright, well why don’t you explain it to me then: how do you know there are six sexes?

Where did I state anything nearly that specific? Also, that's not really the spectrum model strictly speaking, because chromosomes are only one factor as we've brought up to you several times, yet you keep showing your radicalization to the gender critical cult of thinking where you're going to be revolutionary and not "buy into the hype" or such. Any challenge to that just circles back to deflecting any responsibility from you to make an argument and make it all about the other, as if you aren't making a positive claim yourself

 

[muichimotsu]

You must be referring to preferred pronoun usage. Maybe that's what causes high suicide rates. Maybe it's an offense to you. You're certainly not doing a good job of being persuasive. Have you ever heard, you win more bees with honey?

Pretty sure being misgendered and deadnamed is a factor, but no one is saying it's the only thing causing high suicide rates, because it's rarely, if ever, that simple with mental health

 

[didactics]

Where did I state anything nearly that specific? Also, that's not really the spectrum model strictly speaking, because chromosomes are only one factor as we've brought up to you several times, yet you keep showing your radicalization to the gender critical cult of thinking where you're going to be revolutionary and not "buy into the hype" or such. Any challenge to that just circles back to deflecting any responsibility from you to make an argument and make it all about the other, as if you aren't making a positive claim yourself

Try explaining to me how Turners syndrome is a 3rd sex.

 

[muichimotsu]

Someone (I think it was Kant, but don't quote me on that), said that the reason for humor is to laugh at "absurdities."

Since males are considered the "norm" in society, men who either choose or are forced to not act like "men" seem absurd, therefore funny.

A quick search suggests the superiority theory that I think you're talking about goes back to Plato or Aristotle, though Kant is said to have some elements in his theories (which I've only touched the surface of in college years ago, and he's dense and dry)

 

[muichimotsu]

Try explaining to me how Turners syndrome is a 3rd sex?

Again, didn't say that, 3rd gender is the term you're thinking of with regards to historically verifiable cultural ideas where it wasn't just man and woman.

 

[muichimotsu]

And the source he's cutting and pasting from AiG, which would get him laughed out of the C/E boards...

Like sovereign citizens thinking Black's Law Dictionary is somehow exhaustive and applicable to all legal contexts as regards their idiocy that they're not driving while explicitly operating a motor vehicle. The commercial aspect is moot in terms of even federal law, I'm almost certain.

 

[muichimotsu]

People who refuse to learn from their mistakes are often cause for concern.

Or those who insist that their mistakes aren't such, which I think is called willful ignorance

 

[didactics]

@muichimotsu I'm not following. Are you saying Turners syndrome is not another biological sex?

 

[TLK Valentine]

You must be referring to preferred pronoun usage. Maybe that's what causes high suicide rates. Maybe it's an offense to you. You're certainly not doing a good job of being persuasive. Have you ever heard, you win more bees with honey?

Sometimes it's a waste of honey.
Better to save it for when there's no question one is dealing with people who think those high suicide rates are a problem.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Like sovereign citizens thinking Black's Law Dictionary is somehow exhaustive and applicable to all legal contexts as regards their idiocy that they're not driving while explicitly operating a motor vehicle. The commercial aspect is moot in terms of even federal law, I'm almost certain.

And Black's Law Dictionary isn't being filtered through a quasi religious propaganda machine like AiG...

 

[muichimotsu]

@muichimotsu I'm not following. Are you saying Turners syndrome is not another biological sex?

Even if it is, you missed an important detail in the article @Kylie brought up. It said the "most common", it wasn't claiming an exhaustive list.

 

[muichimotsu]

And Black's Law Dictionary isn't being filtered through a quasi religious propaganda machine like AiG...

I mean, it's still grassroots to a degree, but they're not so stupid as to not recognize the benefits of the MLM type system that you see with them, but that's derailing the thread more than I already have

 

[Ana the Ist]

Opposite gender, not sex.

Since when do trans people define gender with biological characteristics?

 

[Ana the Ist]

"Gender" is a combination of physical, psychological, and social constructs -- and it has always meant different things in different times and cultures.

Our current time and culture (allegedly) praises personal liberty -- and what is more personally liberating than self-determination?

Absolutely....and as far as I can tell, they already have the same rights as any man or woman.