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Lillen · Nov 3, 2010

First i need to inform you that my notion stands firm - were there is knowledge it will vanish away at the same time there is nothing new under the sun.

As a free thinker, even though an amatur, I believe that science in the future, parhaps when this modern world is viewed as the old world, will argue that the world is a hologram. Is, what i call, hawking conception or hawking perception able to form the modern universe to a hologram?

Will science in the future argue that the world is a hologram?

Delphiki · Nov 3, 2010

Let me test this hypothesis...

*jumps*

Nope. Solid as a rock.

Lillen · Nov 3, 2010

In the old world before america was created people like you argued that the world was flat!

Is hawking theory able to create a new world? Or atleast can God create a hologram of the universe with his spokeman Hawking?

Lillen · Nov 3, 2010

The reason why I started this thread is because i can look from a scientifcall perspective, even though I am not a scientist. The thing that teachers are encourage to give people who dismiss evolution the lowest grade and are set a side by the teacher in natural science. And I also want to evolve (discussions usually make a person come to better understaning of a certain conviction).

Delphiki · Nov 3, 2010

Lillen said:
In the old world before america was created people like you argued that the world was flat!

There's really no way to tell. If the evidence was good enough, maybe there's a slight chance -- but I can confidently say I'd have accepted the earth as round long before you, since I am the type of person who waits to make observations long before I draw a conclusion.

For one - this hologram idea you have stems from a misunderstanding of a Hawking quote. We've already established this in another thread.

Second - You apparently lack an understanding of what a hologram actually is. A hologram exists only as an illusion of light. Our earth is made of solid matter. Go outside, look down, see dirt. Take note how you don't pass through it.

Delphiki · Nov 3, 2010

Lillen said:
The reason why I started this thread is because i can look from a scientifcall perspective, even though I am not a scientist. The thing that teachers are encourage to give people who dismiss evolution the lowest grade and are set a side by the teacher in natural science. And I also want to evolve (discussions usually make a person come to better understaning of a certain conviction).

Again, it's just "scientific"... Actually, in your case "science fiction". I would say "(You) have a good imagination for science fiction"

pgp_protector · Nov 3, 2010

Delphiki said:
There's really no way to tell. If the evidence was good enough, maybe there's a slight chance -- but I can confidently say I'd have accepted the earth as round long before you, since I am the type of person who waits to make observations long before I draw a conclusion.

For one - this hologram idea you have stems from a misunderstanding of a Hawking quote. We've already established this in another thread.

Second - You apparently lack an understanding of what a hologram actually is. A hologram exists only as an illusion of light. Our earth is made of solid matter. Go outside, look down, see dirt. Take note how you don't pass through it.

Well we assume it's solid, but down on the quantum level we don't really know what it's all made of do we

Lillen · Nov 3, 2010

You need to be aware that we intpret evidence and facts diffrently!

Let's set aside this, and talk about something else:

I have a theory, that black holes are surrounded with dark matter. This assumes that dark matter do escape black holes (otherwise it cannot surround the black hole). - And that a vessle or a body can be inside a black hole and travell through it if the dark matter is removed from it

Another way to explain this obsevation of mine is that black holes secrate dark matter.

pgp_protector · Nov 3, 2010

Lillen said:
You need to be aware that we intpret evidence and facts diffrently!

Let's set aside this, and talk about something else:

I have a theory, that black holes are surrounded with dark matter. This assumes that dark matter do escape black holes (otherwise it cannot surround the black hole). - And that a vessle or a body can be inside a black hole and travell through it if the dark matter is removed from it

Why would you assume that dark matter can escape a black holes gravity, based on what evidence do you make this assumption ?

Lillen · Nov 3, 2010

Why would you assume that dark matter can escape a black holes gravity, based on what evidence do you make this assumption ?

I base this upon observations. Near death experiences and so.

If NASA can observe dark matter around a black hole this has been confirmed. And super novas desecrate dark matter (wiki)

Delphiki · Nov 3, 2010

pgp_protector said:
Well we assume it's solid, but down on the quantum level we don't really know what it's all made of do we

The difference between what is and isn't solid matter is not determined at the quantum level.

Delphiki · Nov 3, 2010

Leprechauns are real
(wiki)

Lillen · Nov 3, 2010

Delphiki said:
The difference between what is and isn't solid matter is not determined at the quantum level.

I am not familiar with the quantum level. tell me?!

As a sidenote, i escaped the death chamber and slept like a child among the cobras and as a lamb among the lions when the curses were removed.

Delphiki · Nov 3, 2010

No, that's okay. No need in confusing you further that what you've done to yourself.

Lillen · Nov 3, 2010

I haven't tapped my own head!!

AV1611VET · Nov 3, 2010

Lillen said:
As a sidenote, i escaped the death chamber and slept like a child among the cobras and as a lamb among the lions when the curses were removed.

That's nothing -- I eat scientists for breakfast --

LifeToTheFullest! · Nov 3, 2010

AV1611VET said:
That's nothing -- I eat scientists for breakfast --

He's a legend in his own mind. Just ask him.

Lillen · Nov 3, 2010

Don't eat me just because i sided with scientist here...

Í believe that scientist observe already observed things in the bible. For instacne i believe that within astorphysics black holes are the utter darkness were there is weeping and gnashing with teeth. In the court of order this is famously called deathchamber!

I believe that science observe things that are mentioned in the bible but gives diffrent intpretaion and put a set of alternative knowledge around the facts that is observed!

I believe that darkmatter is curses cast by antichrist followers upon diffrent afflicted people!

LifeToTheFullest! · Nov 3, 2010

Lillen said:
Don't eat me just because i sided with scientist here...

Í believe that scientist observe already observed things in the bible. For instacne i believe that within astorphysics black holes are the utter darkness were there is weeping and gnashing with teeth. In the court of order this is famously called deathchamber!

I believe that science observe things that are mentioned in the bible but gives diffrent intpretaion and put a set of alternative knowledge around the facts that is observed!

I believe that darkmatter is curses cast by antichrist followers upon diffrent afflicted people!

You're free to believe whatever you like.

Upisoft · Nov 3, 2010

LifeToTheFullest! said:
You're free to believe whatever you like.

I don't believe you!

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