to be or

[46AND2]

They aren't set though right? If they're set that lends itself to something placing those set rules on it!

uh, yes. Nature. You know, the environment. That is what sets rules on it.

 

[Metal Minister]

uh, yes. Nature. You know, the environment. That is what sets rules on it.

Just can't bring yourself to say "I don't know" can you. Laws and barriers in "nature" or "the environment" still have to come from somewhere. It's ok, its hard to accept that there is a higher power in control of the universe. When you do, you'll understand how silly the idea of "naturalistic only started by abiogenesis" evolution really has been all this time, and how much faith you've wasted on it. God bless!

 

[46AND2]

Just can't bring yourself to say "I don't know" can you. Laws and barriers in "nature" or "the environment" still have to come from somewhere. It's ok, its hard to accept that there is a higher power in control of the universe. When you do, you'll understand how silly the idea of "naturalistic only started by abiogenesis" evolution really has been all this time, and how much faith you've wasted on it. God bless!

We were talking about the lack of randomness of natural selection, and your argument is that God would have to set the rules that guide natural selection.

Thanks for agreeing that natural selection is not random.

 

[Belk]

to be or

That simple phrase requires eight taps on a keyboard, in the proper order:

1. t
2. o
3. space
4. b
5. e
6. space
7. o
8. r

Let's put a monkey in a room with a typewriter with only five keys:

1. t
2. o
3. b
4. e
5. space

The chances of that monkey hitting the "t" is 1-in-5, then the "o" would be (1-in-5) x (1-in-5), or 1-in-25, or 1-in-5[sup]2[/sup].

His chance of typing "to be or" is 1-in-25[sup]8[/sup].

Picture him now with a standard qwerty keyboard, and I hope you get the idea that evolution can take a hike.

Thanks for the laugh AV. Always appreciated.

 

[Gracchus]

So... my guess is you'll never get 'to be or', you'll get a whole bunch of one of the letters and a ton of monkey poo stains.

And if you give a keyboard to a creationist, you'll get mostly poo.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Oh dear. Maybe if you knew a bit more about evolution, you might be more adept at creating reasonable analogies.

A girl monkey or a boy money?

An African monkey or a European monkey?

 

[46AND2]

Oh dear. Maybe if you knew a bit more about evolution, you might be more adept at creating reasonable analogies.



An African monkey or a European monkey?

What is its favorite color?

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

What is its favorite color?

Is it carrying a coconut?

 

[46AND2]

Is it carrying a coconut?

I know the answer to that is no, cause I cut it's arms off.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

I know the answer to that is no, cause I cut it's arms off.

It could hold it by the husk...with its feet!

 

[Gracchus]

to be or

That simple phrase requires eight taps on a keyboard, in the proper order:

1. t
2. o
3. space
4. b
5. e
6. space
7. o
8. r

Let's put a monkey in a room with a typewriter with only five keys:

1. t
2. o
3. b
4. e
5. space

The chances of that monkey hitting the "t" is 1-in-5, then the "o" would be (1-in-5) x (1-in-5), or 1-in-25, or 1-in-5[sup]2[/sup].

His chance of typing "to be or" is 1-in-25[sup]8[/sup].

Picture him now with a standard qwerty keyboard, and I hope you get the idea that evolution can take a hike.

How can the monkey type "to be or" if the typewriter does not even have an "r" in it?

So the chances of the monkey correctly typing the phrase is zero in however many you like.

If you were talking to me, flattery will get you nowhere.

Just to notice you is to flatter you.

 

[46AND2]

It could hold it by the husk...with its feet!

Cut them off, too. And it can't be carrying it in its mouth, cause it threatened to bite my legs off.

 

[Tiberius]

to be or

That simple phrase requires eight taps on a keyboard, in the proper order:

1. t
2. o
3. space
4. b
5. e
6. space
7. o
8. r

Let's put a monkey in a room with a typewriter with only five keys:

1. t
2. o
3. b
4. e
5. space

The chances of that monkey hitting the "t" is 1-in-5, then the "o" would be (1-in-5) x (1-in-5), or 1-in-25, or 1-in-5[sup]2[/sup].

His chance of typing "to be or" is 1-in-25[sup]8[/sup].

Picture him now with a standard qwerty keyboard, and I hope you get the idea that evolution can take a hike.

Evolution isn't random.

QV please: 1

 

[Tiberius]

Of course it is. Nothing is predetermined in natural selection. There's no set way it will work.

I think you need to look at that link as well, MM.

Here you go.

 

[AV1611VET]

Evolution isn't random.

Then it's guided?

QV please: 1

From your challenge:

I am playing a computer game. I am presented with a screen coloured red. At certain intervals, 20 small coloured squares appear in random locations in this red screen. They can be of any colour, and of any brightness. They can be blue, green, red, light or dark, black or white or any shade of grey. The colours are completely random.

Sounds random to me.

 

[46AND2]

Then it's guided? (snip)...

Yes.


And I've already explained how.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Cut them off, too. And it can't be carrying it in its mouth, cause it threatened to bite my legs off.

It'll only be a flesh wound.

Then it's guided?

From your challenge:

Sounds random to me.

It's guided by success.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's guided by success.

Except for the ones that go extinct, eh?

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Except for the ones that go extinct, eh?

No kidding. How did you figure that one out?!

 

[AV1611VET]

No kidding. How did you figure that one out?!

A miniscule avian dinosaur told me.