To be a Universalist you need to believe in reincarnation

[HomeBound]

I'm a universalist, but I think the only way to reconcile that belief with scripture is to believe in reincarnation.
Are there some people that agree with this assessment?

 

[Soul Searcher]

No it is not the only way but it is one way.

 

[ChasClean]

My understanding of reincarnation would be the exacat opposite of the wonderful grace of the gospel.

Reincarnation is the ultimate of works salvation. Having to go through this earthly fallen life again and again until we get it right. As if "we" could ever get it right.

I believe the reason we die in such a short time is because of God's mercy. He knows, as believers, we long to be with Him. Living again and again, in my opinion would be pretty hellacious.

 

[hybrid]

I'm a universalist, but I think the only way to reconcile that belief with scripture is to believe in reincarnation.
Are there some people that agree with this assessment?

I agree. HB.

Universalism makes more sense with reincarnation rather than the lost soul being passively and automaticaly purged of sins in the LOF after death.

Reincarnation is the ultimate of works salvation. Having to go through this earthly fallen life again and again until we get it right. As if "we" could ever get it right.

i agree, CC. this is one of the problems of reincarnation, the next succesive lives can always go both ways. (for the better or for the worse), and could really turn into a vicious cylcle, thus the path to salvation thru reincarnation is not assured....

 

[Bernie02]

I'm a universalist, but I think the only way to reconcile that belief with scripture is to believe in reincarnation.
Are there some people that agree with this assessment?

Absolutely not. I hope to begin presenting a series of threads here soon as a challenge to our eternal tormentist brethren designed to show rationally, reasonably and Scripturally that the doctrine of universal salvation not only does not deny a single tradition of God, but is the single overlying truth which effectually reduces the warring sisters Calvinism and Arminianism to their proper place in the salvation picture--each representing one side of the twofold aspect of Biblical salvation. Once the pieces are properly assembled, all the inconsistencies raised by C and A against each other vanish, and the only thing toppled in the process is the errors tradition has clung to for four centuries.

Universal salvation upholds and unifies the orthodox truths of Christianity better than either current soteriology does. What basis do you have for suggesting that "the only way to reconcile [universal salvation] with scripture is to believe in reincarnation"?

 

[FineLinen]

I'm a universalist, but I think the only way to reconcile that belief with scripture is to believe in reincarnation.
Are there some people that agree with this assessment?

Absolutely not! The Road back into God is by rectitude, change and transformation. There is simply no other way.

[move]And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which he has cherished in his own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him. And you.....chosen in accordance with the intention of Him whose might carries out in everything the design of His own will. [/move]

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Universalism = Volume 12 Page 96

In the first five or six hundred centuries of Christianity there were six theological schools, of which four (Alexandria, Antioch, Caesarea, and Edessa, or Nisibis) were universalist, one (Ephesus) accepted conditional immortality; one (Carthage or Rome) taught endless punishment of the wicked. Other theological schools are mentioned as founded by universalists, but their actual doctrine on this subject are not known.

 

[HomeBound]

Absolutely not. I hope to begin presenting a series of threads here soon as a challenge to our eternal tormentist brethren designed to show rationally, reasonably and Scripturally that the doctrine of universal salvation not only does not deny a single tradition of God, but is the single overlying truth which effectually reduces the warring sisters Calvinism and Arminianism to their proper place in the salvation picture--each representing one side of the twofold aspect of Biblical salvation. Once the pieces are properly assembled, all the inconsistencies raised by C and A against each other vanish, and the only thing toppled in the process is the errors tradition has clung to for four centuries.

Universal salvation upholds and unifies the orthodox truths of Christianity better than either current soteriology does. What basis do you have for suggesting that "the only way to reconcile [universal salvation] with scripture is to believe in reincarnation"?

I can't wait to see these threads in the near future.

Well, the Bible definitely indicates that every crime will be dealt with justly. Although I don't believe that that means eternal torment in any case, I do believe that a person is perfected over time. If this life we are living could be the means by which God uses to baptize (cleanse) people, then why would one life be it?

 

[hairettic]

Because of how He sees us, not as what we are or how we act.
Have you ever seen a parent that is blinded by who their child really is? I believe Jesus blinded God's eyes to our imperfection. IT IS DONE!

 

[HomeBound]

The feedback is awesome, because I in no way claim to know the least of the kingdom of Heaven nor of the ways of God, I will remain in a constant learning mode.

I'm just thankful that people are at least giving it a shot to believe that a God of LOVE would never send anyone to an eternal punishment (neither would LOVE allow them to make that choice on their own)

 

[HisWordIsMySword]

Reincarnation is one of many ploys of the enemy to steal the souls of men. He will do anything and say anything to kill, steal and destroy that which is of God.

 

[martymonster]

Absolutely not!

this one horrible life is more than enough for me thank's very much!

 

[LogosX]

FineLinen,

 

[FineLinen]

Logos, welcome to C.F.C. We look forward to many good days with you.

The great danger facing all of us... is not that we shall make an absolute failure of life, nor that we shall fall into outright viciousness, nor that we shall be terribly unhappy, nor that we shall feel that life has no meaning at all -- not these things. The danger is that we may fail to perceive life's greatest meaning, fall short of its highest good, miss its deepest and most abiding happiness, be unable to tender the most needed service, be unconscious of life ablaze with the light of the Presence of God -- and be content to have it so -- that is the danger: that some day we may wake up and find that always we have been busy with husks and trappings of life and have really missed life itself. For life without God, to one who has known the richness and joy of life with Him, is unthinkable, impossible. That is what one prays one's friends may be spared -- satisfaction with a life that falls short of the best, that has in it no tingle or thrill that comes from a friendship with the Father. -Phillips Brooks

 

[martymonster]

I Thought lifes greatest danger was not being born in the right at the right place to hear the gospel and possibly making a timely decision for Christ and say the sinners prayer and thus being torched forever in some firey eternal Hell!