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You do understand that your way of thinking only applies to you?
Which leaves 5.5 that don't. That's a lot more, right?
Few in my way of thinking would believe in God as just a science theory in order to explain how things got to be the way they are, even though some will.
In any case, we learn that's not the way we are told to find Him.
So, even if you discover the interesting situation in fundamental ('high energy') physics right now, with the very odd situation with the Higgs Boson mass, which in turn allows this Universe to be as it is, and also life bearing, instead of quickly collapsing or quickly expanding into entropy death, but that the Higgs is very oddly just right without any good explanation, and the beautiful theory that was suppose to help fix that isn't working out so far....no data to support it where expected, nor again recently after the LHC upgrade.... all of that, even all of that isn't really the reason to believe in a Designer. Not even with physicists surprisingly now using the words 'unnatural' for this situation, and now in speculation about multiverses that will likely never be observable, so that the competing new speculative theories likely can never be supported with observation.....ever..... Still, this situation, even if convincing for a soul or two out there somewhere that understands all the science. It's not really the reason to believe.
Not it.
The reason to believe in God is because if you truly seek Him with all of your heart, you can find Him.
And learn of the One Whom He sent to us to teach us and save us from our worst -- Who said these:
"A new command I give to you, that you love one another as I have loved you."
"Forgive not just seven times, but seventy times seven."
"Love your neighbor as yourself."
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies..."
And then He gave us a way to begin to even do that....
That God, the only one, the Something you already can find, deep within --
"You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring you back from captivity...."
Regarding the part I bolded, what about those who sincerely sought and found nothing, and became atheists?
I'm quite sure about that. It's very much like a person literally leaping off a building without seeing the trampoline. On an emotional level. Sort of. Because I dared to have my life turned up side down in that way.
I think what CrystalDragon was alluding to is the fact it's possible to have a similar experience and arrive at an entirely different world-view or belief.
I know for myself I went on a 'spiritual quest' of sorts back when I thought I needed religion in my life. But after seeking out and learning about all sorts of spiritual/religious beliefs, ultimately I arrived at a state of non-belief. And the effect was incredible; like there had been this giant weight on my shoulders and suddenly it was gone and everything seemed so clear. It was a rush of emotion and incredible relief, and all it took was acknowledging and coming to terms with what I honestly believed deep down.
Quite the experience.
Glad you got the false off of your shoulders!
The reality of Christ is so different than weight on you, when you find the real thing.
Just to clarify though, I found non-belief. Ultimately I adopted an agnostic position; I believe that if there is some sort of supernatural deity in the universe it is likely unknown to us and not represented in any particular theistic beliefs. But that's just my view of things.
Here's a way to think about it -- if something is true, then versions of it are going to be discovered over and over through human history, over time, with different flavors, trying to capture that subtle or deeper insight or something hard to pin down. But after they try to get at that something that caused the initial quest, then the degree of the real in their beliefs they end up communicating will be what determines if the beliefs endure, instead of simply lasting a generation or several generation. If it has some real truth in it, instead of fading out, it will continue, century after century.
not realy. see here:
The Turn of the Screw: The Bacterial Flagellar Motor - ScienceDirect
More so than other motors, the flagellum resembles a machine designed by a human (Figure 1a).
Just because it looks like a machine that requires a designer doesn't mean that it is.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...sg=AFQjCNEATZFJiuHKlv7dAI8G956LBNv35Q&cf=1
Good grief man, you're like a broken record.
Summary of the evolutionary model for the origin of the flagellum, showing the six major stages and key intermediates. White components have identified or reasonably probable nonflagellar homologs; grey components have either suggested but unsupported homologs, or no specific identified homologs, although ancestral functions can be postulated. The model begins with a passive, somewhat general inner membrane pore (1a) that is converted to a more substrate-specific pore (1b) by binding of proto-FlhA and/or FlhB to FliF. Interaction of an F1F0-ATP synthetase with FlhA/B produces an active transporter, a primitive type III export apparatus (1c). Addition of a secretin which associates with the cytoplasmic ring converts this to a type III secretion system (2). A mutated secretion substrate becomes a secreted adhesin (or alternatively an adhesin is coopted by transposition of the secretion recognition sequence), and a later mutation lets it bind to the outer side of the secretin (3a). Oligomerization of the adhesin produces a pentameric ring, allowing more surface adhesins without blocking other secretion substrates (3b). Polymerization of this ring produces a tube, a primitive type III pilus (4a; in the diagram, a white axial structure is substituted for the individual pilin subunits; all further axial proteins are descended from this common pilin ancestor). Oligomerization of a pilin produces the cap, increasing assembly speed and efficiency (4b). A duplicate pilin that loses its outer domains becomes the proto-rod protein, extending down through the secretin and strengthening pilus attachment by association with the base (4c). Further duplications of the proto-rod, filament, and cap proteins, occurring before and after the origin of the flagellum (6) produce the rest of the axial proteins; these repeated subfunctionalization events are not shown here. The protoflagellum (5a) is produced by cooption of TolQR homologs from a Tol-Pal-like system; perhaps a portion of a TolA homolog bound to FliF to produce proto-FliG. In order to improve rotation, the secretin loses its binding sites to the axial filament, becoming the proto-P-ring, and the role of outer membrane pore is taken over by the secretin’s lipoprotein chaperone ring, which becomes the proto-L-ring (5b). Perfection of the L-ring and addition of the rod cap FlgJ muramidase domain (which removes the necessity of finding a natural gap in the cell wall) results in 5c. Finally, binding of a mutant proto-FliN (probably a CheC receptor) to FliG couples the signal transduction system to the protoflagellum, producing a chemotactic flagellum (6); fusion of proto-FliN and CheC produces FliM. Each stage would obviously be followed by gradual coevolutionary optimization of component interactions. The origin of the flagellum is thus reduced to a series of mutationally plausible steps.
Evolution of the bacterial flagellum
Last year, Pallen and Matzke (2006) presented a discussion of how bacterial flagella may have evolved, based in large part on comparisons of sequences from the various protein components. Many of the proteins that make up a flagellum have homologues that serve non-flagellar functions, strongly suggesting that they were co-opted from pre-existing proteins during the evolution of flagella. (See Matzke’s detailed model of flagellar evolution here and a video based on it here, and Ken Miller talking about flagella here). Specifically, there is ever-mounting evidence that bacterial flagella and the type III secretory system (TTSS) that toxic bacteria use to inject their prey are descended from the same ancestral structure. The fact that the TTSS lacks many of the proteins in flagella but remains functional (for toxin injection rather than locomotion) clearly indicates that not all the parts need to be present for some function to be carried out by the structure.
Genome sequences reduce the complexity of bacterial flagella. « Genomicron
but it's doenst mean that there is a stepwise way from one kind into another.
Here's a way to think about it .. myths, legends, and tall tales falsify the premise in the quoted post.Here's a way to think about it -- if something is true, then versions of it are going to be discovered over and over through human history, over time, with different flavors, trying to capture that subtle or deeper insight or something hard to pin down. But after they try to get at that something that caused the initial quest, then the degree of the real in their beliefs they end up communicating will be what determines if the beliefs endure, instead of simply lasting a generation or several generation. If it has some real truth in it, instead of fading out, it will continue, century after century.
by this criteria somthing that looks like a car isnt a car and doesnt need a designer then?
And you know that how?
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