To all thiests.

[Toboe]

What makes you think that your scripture about your god is true, besides that fact that it may say in it that it is true.

 

[levi501]

Circular reasoning is all you'll get.
The bible is true because it says it's true.
ummm... yah, ok.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

What makes you think that your scripture about your god is true, besides that fact that it may say in it that it is true.

It has been confirmed in my life. After so much testing, confirmation, and lack of confliction, the faith that goes beyond the words continues to be confirmed.

 

[Toboe]

It has been confirmed in my life. After so much testing, confirmation, and lack of confliction, the faith that goes beyond the words continues to be confirmed.

Oh wow.......

 

[Rae]

What makes you think that your scripture about your god is true

I'm a theist and I don't have a written text about my Gods.

 

[Skydancing]

The Bible is the opinion of man trying to work out the opinion of God!

 

[Cerberus~]

It has been confirmed in my life. After so much testing, confirmation, and lack of confliction, the faith that goes beyond the words continues to be confirmed.

And if ones life has confirmed to them that Christianity is false. That after testing, confirming and conflicting their way though Christianity, they still find it lacking, unreasonable, wrong.

What do you say? Do you tell them that they're still wrong, even though you use the same criteria for judging Christianity as they have? Or do you say something else?

 

[stumpjumper]

What makes you think that your scripture about your god is true, besides that fact that it may say in it that it is true.

Because it is myth that has invaded reality. I find the Christian message true for many reasons not the least of which is that it speaks of the universal human condition. We all find ourselves in need of a redeemer at times in our lives and in Christian scripture we find that redeemer entering into the world and showing us the way.

That and because I have read it, tested it, rejected it for a while only to find that the truth is in what it references not neccesarily in the words.

 

[FadingWhispers3]

What makes you think that your scripture about your god is true, besides that fact that it may say in it that it is true.

I have no idea whether it is true in the literal sense. But in the metaphorical sense, it speaks to me. That is to say that I find some things insightful and beneficial. And that, in a this kind of book, is more important than how 'true' it is.

I like sci-fi too, if that explains anything.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

And if ones life has confirmed to them that Christianity is false. That after testing, confirming and conflicting their way though Christianity, they still find it lacking, unreasonable, wrong.

What do you say? Do you tell them that they're still wrong, even though you use the same criteria for judging Christianity as they have? Or do you say something else?

I say that as long as they draw breath in this world, there is still hope that their eyes will be opened. It isn't a matter of me "making" them understand or see and it isn't even them "discovering" God. It is a matter of God calling His children and they come to Him. I do, however, have pity for those that put it off. The life worth living is the one with Him as their Lord and God.
Be that as it may, even the ones that come at the last hour will be welcome.

Matthew 20:1-16
The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard
1"For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire men to work in his vineyard. 2He agreed to pay them a denarius for the day and sent them into his vineyard.


3"About the third hour he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. 4He told them, 'You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.' 5So they went.

"He went out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour and did the same thing. 6About the eleventh hour he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, 'Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?'

7" 'Because no one has hired us,' they answered.
"He said to them, 'You also go and work in my vineyard.'

8"When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, 'Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.'

9"The workers who were hired about the eleventh hour came and each received a denarius. 10So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. 11When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. 12'These men who were hired last worked only one hour,' they said, 'and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.'

13"But he answered one of them, 'Friend, I am not being unfair to you. Didn't you agree to work for a denarius? 14Take your pay and go. I want to give the man who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15Don't I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?'
16"So the last will be first, and the first will be last."
~~~

I do not object to His generosity and Grace, I am an heir because of it.

 

[katautumn]

It has been confirmed in my life. After so much testing, confirmation, and lack of confliction, the faith that goes beyond the words continues to be confirmed.

So, would you give creedence to my religion if I told you I deduced the same thing using the same methods only I read The Satanic Bible?

 

[Voegelin]

What makes you think that your scripture about your god is true, besides that fact that it may say in it that it is true.

Don't know where to start. The title is "To all Theists" yet you seem to narrow it down. Almost as if you have a opposing theology. At the least, your post suggests opposition to a certain theology. Not sure where to go from your question.Some individuals or aspects of the faith putting you off? It is a huge field and because of the popular press, one does get the impression it is limited and certain people represent it all. But that is not the case. You want mysticism, the Christian faith has it. You want social justice? Welcome aboard. You want logic? It is there. No need to jump from one denomination to the other either. Not always, but often, you will find like minded individuals in each.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

So, would you give creedence to my religion if I told you I deduced the same thing using the same methods only I read The Satanic Bible?

I don't insist that you give creedence to my religion.
No, I most likely wouldn't give credence to that religion due to the fact that is part of what has been tested by me and it has failed; although that is the case, how many posts do I make ridiculing Satanic religion on this site or on a site dedicated to it? I recall very few, but I see many that do just that on Christianity or Christians here on a Christian site.

BTW - it helps when the quote includes the author... I almost didn't see the question.

 

[Toboe]

So, would you give creedence to my religion if I told you I deduced the same thing using the same methods only I read The Satanic Bible?

The Satanic bible isn't about a religion. Its just a bunch of atheists who hate christianity.

 

[Toboe]

Don't know where to start. The title is "To all Theists" yet you seem to narrow it down. Almost as if you have a opposing theology. At the least, your post suggests opposition to a certain theology. Not sure where to go from your question.Some individuals or aspects of the faith putting you off? It is a huge field and because of the popular press, one does get the impression it is limited and certain people represent it all. But that is not the case. You want mysticism, the Christian faith has it. You want social justice? Welcome aboard. You want logic? It is there. No need to jump from one denomination to the other either. Not always, but often, you will find like minded individuals in each.

I'm not condemning your religion or anyone else. I just want to know the reason why you think that the bible is true with saying that it says its true in it, you understand what I am saying.

 

[xAtheistx]

The Satanic bible isn't about a religion. Its just a bunch of atheists who hate christianity.

Nonsense. You can't be atheist and believe in Satan; because he's either the deity, or the archnemesis of the deity, and if there is no deity (as atheism dictates), it can be either.

 

[Toboe]

Nonsense. You can't be atheist and believe in Satan; because he's either the deity, or the archnemesis of the deity, and if there is no deity (as atheism dictates), it can be either.

They use Satan as a metaphor to be against everything that christianity is.

The Nine Satanic Statements [size=-1]I Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence![/size]

[size=-1]II Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams![/size]

[size=-1]III Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit![/size]

[size=-1]IV Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates![/size]

[size=-1]V Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek![/size]

[size=-1]VI Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires![/size]

[size=-1]VII Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development, has become the most vicious animal of all![/size]

[size=-1]VIII Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification![/size]

[size=-1]IX Satan is the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years![/size]

 

[elman]

What makes you think that your scripture about your god is true, besides that fact that it may say in it that it is true.

Have you seen nothing yet in life that confirms loving others and concern for the needs of others is good and a total selfish atitude is bad? Does this indicate a God who is loving is true or not? I don't think everything in the Bible is true, but when it says God is love, I think that is true.

 

[Toboe]

Have you seen nothing yet in life that confirms loving others and concern for the needs of others is good and a total selfish atitude is bad? Does this indicate a God who is loving is true or not? I don't think everything in the Bible is true, but when it says God is love, I think that is true.

Ok thats for an honest answer.

 

[xAtheistx]

They use Satan as a metaphor to be against everything that christianity is.

Oh. Sorry, I was unfamiliar with the context.