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O.k. so that is the source of your hostility. No, I'm not pretending.
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O.k. so that is the source of your hostility. No, I'm not pretending.If she's not senile or something she can do what she wants with her money. If you have financial concerns, this isn't the forum for it, it's a family matter. I don't know why you're pretending to have a theological question about "what God finds acceptable".
O.k. so that is the source of your hostility.
So you believe in God?No, I'm not pretending.
I'm not pretending because I am genuinely asking for theological views on tithing. My mother believes in Christianity and believes in tithing, so I want to understand the theological views. That doesn't require me to believe in God. (I haven't told my mother that I am agnostic, because that would distress her.)So you believe in God?
Copeland doesn't have a church he is an evangelist.After my research on Kenneth Copeland for example, i wouldnt tithe at a church like his, much less be a member.
Where in the NT does it say to tithe, which means 10 or 10 %?Of course not. You tithe to "your" church. That is what God says. God does not say tithe to a "good" church.
Creflo dollar suit your fancy?Copeland doesn't have a church he is an evangelist.
He does have a church.Creflo dollar suit your fancy?
I was pretty weary donating money to any religious organization before but I can guarantee that I will never donate to a Christian charity again. Thanks for the warning!
I don't see the logic of your conclusion.
Jesus is neither stupid nor a martinet--He knows who is actually operating with evil intention, and that is who will be held responsible.
Why would I donate when at least some Christians say that it's not only fine to be ripped off, but God is OK with letting his name be used to rip off his people? But like I said, I don't like to donate money to any religious institution in general. These days, I only donate to Cornell Labs and the Audubon Society.
In the season finale of the Watership Down animated series, the Black of Rabbit of Inle (sort of a Grim Reaper character) appears before the villain and says, "My empire is not of this world, Woundwort. And no creature invokes my name for their own dark ends," before eliminating him and his army.
Perhaps this cartoon has set my expectations too high.
God is pleased with the sacrifice made by the giver, regardless of how the religious organization chooses to use the money.
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God is pleased with the sacrifice made by the giver, regardless of how the religious organization chooses to use the money.
If the person really believes the church isn't His -- is not following Him, not obeying Christ -- then the person should definitely choose a different church.
My mother attends a church that has never opened its books - even to church board members. She believes her 10% tithe should go to her church and her charitable giving is in addition to that 10%. She likes this church, but the secrecy of their finances suggests to me that something isn't right. The church was founded by several families in the late 1800s, and I suspect that they consider the church to be their family property. I can only assume that they must be concealing something embarrassing.
From a religious perspective, is tithing to a crooked church an act of obedience to God? Does the tither have a responsibility to ensure that the church is using the money in a way that would please God? Or is God satisfied with the sacrifice made by the giver regardless of the outcome?
From what I understand, tithing at all is a questionable practice under the new covenant. Or, rather, the enforcing of tithing. If one wants to give 10%, that's one thing. But to make it a condition of church membership, or salvation, or being invited to the church potluck on Saturday, that's questionable. On top of that, I thought it originally involved livestock, not $$$$.My mother attends a church that has never opened its books - even to church board members. She believes her 10% tithe should go to her church and her charitable giving is in addition to that 10%. She likes this church, but the secrecy of their finances suggests to me that something isn't right. The church was founded by several families in the late 1800s, and I suspect that they consider the church to be their family property. I can only assume that they must be concealing something embarrassing.
From a religious perspective, is tithing to a crooked church an act of obedience to God? Does the tither have a responsibility to ensure that the church is using the money in a way that would please God? Or is God satisfied with the sacrifice made by the giver regardless of the outcome?
Unless for some other reason God has placed him in that particular church.
I haven't been in a congregation yet that didn't have some problem (and I've only been in one in which I didn't have some quibble or complaint about what they did with the money), but I've been in congregations that I know God specifically placed me.
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