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New_Wineskin said:The biblical tithe does not include any of those . Those things are club dues that some groups decide to place on themselves .
The tithe isn't about giving , either . It is about paying something according to a law .
This is the problem when discussing "tithes" . There are several definitions being used at the same time . And , sometimes , a poster will be discussing the term with a couple of those definitions in one post .
hypostatic said:If no one tithes how would the church (little c, not big C) support itself? Who would pay the mortgage, salaries, and other expenses?
ronmathison said:Various churches should support themselves, by asking for money. They should not do it through manipulation, by saying "God commands it." , because He doesn't.
christianmarine said:I am in agreement that nothing in the New Testament demands us to give the "10%" of our earnings. The Lord wants a cheerful giver, not one who is grudgingly giving 10%, simply because that is the specific amount. Give what your heart desires, not what man tells you to give. I constantly hear about the Televangelists saying that what you give, you will recieve, especially the emphasis on monetary blessings to recieve. This is very bad advice, as it breeds greed and can cause discord and lack of faith if the the Lord doesn' "deliver" his promises. We must remember that the Lord owes us nothing and we owe him everything. Therefore, we should give accordingly, expecting nothing in return except for his love.
sparkyman481 said:God does not want 10%
He wants 100%
right. If your church does that, you should look around for another place to worshipronmathison said:Various churches should support themselves, by asking for money. They should not do it through manipulation, by saying "God commands it." , because He doesn't.
well saidnb_christseeker said:give and it will be given to you, but Christ was always speaking about the Kingdom of God. also consider how Christ lambasted the hypocrites for tithing out their spices etc, but failing in justice, mercy, love, truth, (er, cant remember the exact line but yea). he said they shouldve practiced the former without leaving the latter undone. God still feels that the 1 of every 10 sheep,etc is his, and he even says that people are "robbing God" by not tithing. Of course everything belongs to God, so giving back to him is like if your dad gave you 10 m+ms and said ok now, give me 1 so i can give it to someone poor. and the kids like "NO theyre MY m+ms. why the heck should i give you my 1 m+m?????" its kinda sad. eventually the issue of giving is solved in the NT when Christ witnesses the poor widow give her 2 coins, saying she has given more than all these others, for she has given everything she had to live on. but she KNEW by FAITH that God would provide for her if she gave her all to God, and indeed, at that very moment, God in the flesh was watching her give, and thats what he had to say about her gift. So now we know what God thinks about giving all we have to him. He is appreciative, and it makes him happy. Its not like there is a lack of people in need. The poor are always among you, and you can help them anytime you want.
hypostatic said:That's the first I've heard of a church charging club dues.
The church has, as its primary source of income, tithes offered by the congregation.
While the tithe was law in the OT, Christ declared it as a form of worship, not mandatory, in the NT.
I'm sure that when Christians discuss tithes they refer to it as described in the NT. Any reference to the OT is to identify the 10% rule, and not the spirit of giving and willingness to sacrifice.
hypostatic said:I don't think there are too many churches that come out and say give money. The purpose of passing around the collection plate is so that, if you are willing, you have an opportunity to give. And I highly doubt that there are many Protestant/Non-denominational churches (all that I know about) that teach "God commands it". I know mine doesn't.
Granny2young said:I have always been taught to tithe. Even as a small child I remember my parents giving us "coins" to place in the offering plate as it went by. My mother always taught us to give a tenth as a tithe and anything over that is an offering (gift) to God. I always assumed this was NT scripture since our church taught that, as did most every church I ever attended, no matter the demonination, but I was shocked to be told this morning that TITHING is not a command of Jesus, nor did he tell christians anywhere in the NT to tithe!! If someone knows of a verse, please let me know.
Granny2young said:I have always been taught to tithe. Even as a small child I remember my parents giving us "coins" to place in the offering plate as it went by. My mother always taught us to give a tenth as a tithe and anything over that is an offering (gift) to God. I always assumed this was NT scripture since our church taught that, as did most every church I ever attended, no matter the demonination, but I was shocked to be told this morning that TITHING is not a command of Jesus, nor did he tell christians anywhere in the NT to tithe!! If someone knows of a verse, please let me know.
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