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Rom14 one man sees a day as special another see all the same . It’s not about what day it’s about the heart some may have more than one day be the sabbath. Jesus fulfilled the law now it’s not about keeping the OT law but being right in our hearts to God 24/7TIME TO UNLEARN THE LIES ABOUT GOD’S WORD
Welcome dear friends. May God bless you as you seek Him through His Word.
All you have to do is turn on the news today to see that the signs of the times of the end of the world are being fulfilled in quick succession. Nearly everyday we see wars and rumors of wars, pestilence has been ravaging the world already for some time in many forms and of more recent COVID-19, natural disasters are happening more severely and in quick succession. God’s judgements are coming to all those who do not believe and follow His Word.
According to the scriptures just prior to His coming there will be two classes of Christians. All fall asleep while waiting for the bridegroom. One class purchased extra oil without money and without price and when the call was made to go out and meet the bridegroom, they trimmed their lamps (the Word of God) and went out to meet Him. The other class we are told did not purchase enough oil and when the call was made their lamps went out and they were sitting in darkness and could not find their way because the road was too dark and narrow until the door was shut and when they arrived, they were locked out of the marriage and lost everything because God did not know them.
Likewise, we are told that Babylon has fallen representing fallen Christianity that promotes man-made teachings and traditions over the Word of God. Jesus is calling us all out to trim our lamps to get ready for the marriage where Jesus will marry (unite) with His bride (the Church). Only those who purchase enough oil (faith in Gods’ Word to receive His Spirit), will be able to find their because they trimmed their lamps (know the truth of Gods’ Word) to find their way to the marriage when the call is being made because the road is dark and narrow. The call is being made today dear friend. Have you trimmed your lamps? Do you know the truth of Gods’ Word or are you following in the lies we have been taught from the teachings and traditions of men that have led “the many” away from Gods’ Word to break the commandments of God leading many to sit in darkness when Jesus is calling us all back to His Word to worship Him in Spirit and in truth?
These are questions we must all ask ourselves personally and only we can personally answer them prayerfully asking God are we ready? Do we know the truth of your Word Lord? How do I know that I am following God’s Word and not the man-made teachings and traditions of men that have led “the many” away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God? The latter according to Jesus are not worshiping God according to the scriptures (Matthew 15:3-9) Jesus is calling us all and says the hour is coming and NOW IS, that the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him MUST worship him in spirit and in truth. God is calling us all back to His Word to worship Him in Spirit and in truth.
This thread is about unlearning the lies we have all been taught in Sunday schools and in regard to “Sunday worship” Which is a man-made teaching and tradition that has led many away from God and His Word.
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QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION?
1. What are the lies we are being taught in Sunday school in regards to Gods' 10 commandments?...............
2. Where does it say in the scriptures that Sunday is "the Lords day"?
3. Where does it say in the scriptures that God's seventh day Sabbath has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest?
It's time to unlearn the lies we have all be fed and to seek Jesus for ourselves through His Word asking Jesus to teach us His Word so that we can know the truth of His Word personally for ourselves. God promises all of us... "You shall seek me, and find me, when you shall search for me with all your heart." - Jeremiah 29:13. God is calling us all to return to Him because he loves us and is not willing that any should perish *2 Peter 3:9. He promises that "if any man wants to know the truth of Gods' Word they will know if we turn away from the teachings of men and seek Him for it *John 7:17. All we need to do is ask him and believe His Word and claim His promises (see also John 16:13; John 14:26; John 7:17; 1 John 2:27; Hebrews 8:11).
None of us should be afraid of coming to the light of Gods' Word to see if we are really in the faith of Gods' Word or not. Let God bless you through His Word. Friendly discussion please please provide scripture for your view.
May God bless you all as you seek Him through His Word.
According to the scriptures those who are born again in God's Spirit do not practice sin *1 John 3:6-9 and no one has Gods' Spirit if they do not believe and obey what Gods' Word says *Acts of the Apostles 5:31; Gods' Spirit is the Spirit of the Word of God *John 6:63 and works through the Word of God as we believe and follow what God's Word says. If you disagree with the posts and scriptures provided here your welcome to show why by the scriptures. Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow them over the teachings and traditions of men that lead us to break the commandments of God *Romans 3:4; Acts of the Apostles 5:29. It's time to unlearn the lies we have all been taught from Sunday school. God is calling us all out to return to His Word and to worship Him in Spirit and in truth *John 4:23-24Yikes, this is a lot of information. Lots of talk about following God's Word but seemingly little accurate understanding of it. Not to mention scriptures tell us to follow the Holy Spirit... those who are led by the spirit are the children of God. Romans 8:14
According to the scriptures, Jesus did not fulfill the law so that we are now free to break the law. Matthew 5:17 tells us not to even think these thoughts. Jesus is telling us not to even let that enter into our thoughts and goes on in Matthew 5:17-28 to magnify the laws requirements to our very thoughts and feelings saying not to even think that he is abolishing the law and the prophets. He is not coming to abolish but to fulfill that is to do them and that not one jot of tittle shall pass from the law until heaven and earth passes away. I do not see this as happening yet dear friend do you?Rom14 one man sees a day as special another see all the same . It’s not about what day it’s about the heart some may have more than one day be the sabbath. Jesus fulfilled the law now it’s not about keeping the OT law but being right in our hearts to God 24/7
I guess I don’t understand the people who want to go back under law, the way I read scripture it says that when the New Covenant came that superseded the old I thought that was the whole point of the example of the marriage thing that once a spouse was dead you were released from that covenant and able to marry another. All the people I have known who were the go back to the law crowd always pick and choose what part they will follow I have yet to find any who follow the whole law.According to the scriptures, Jesus did not fulfill the law so that we are now free to break the law. Matthew 5:17 tells us not to even think this that is Jesus is telling us not to even let that enter into our thoughts and goes on in Matthew 5:17-28 to magnify the laws requirements to our very thoughts and feelings saying not to even think that he is abolishing the law and the prophets. He is not coming to abolish but to fulfill that is to do them and that not one jot of tittle shall pass from the law until heaven and earth passes away. I do not see this as happening yet dear friend do you?
According to the scriptures, no one is "under the law" unless we stand before God guilty of breaking the law according to Romans 3:19. If anyone is knowingly breaking the law according to the scriptures, they are sinning against God because sin is the transgression of the law (1 John 3:4) and it is through the law we have a knowledge of what sin is *Romans 7:7. According to the scriptures we are to walk in the Spirit *Galatians 5:16 and live in newness of life *Romans 6:1-23. Sin will keep all those who knowingly practice it out of God's kingdom according to Hebrews 10:26-31.I guess I don’t understand the people who want to go back under law, the way I read scripture it says that when the New Covenant came that superseded the old I thought that was the whole point of the example of the marriage thing that once a spouse was dead you were released from that covenant and able to marry another. All the people I have known who were the go back to the law crowd always pick and choose what part they will follow I have yet to find any who follow the whole law.
How can we break something if we are not under it?No one is under the law unless we stand before God guilty of breaking the law according to Romans 3:19.
If you do not agree with any of the posts and scriptures shared with you here then your welcome to prove them wrong. If you cannot than what excuse so you have not to believe them?
Sin is the transgression of the law (1 John 3:4). We come "under the laws" condemnation when we stand before God guilty of breaking the law *Romans 3:9-20How can we break something if we are not under it?
You are welcome to prove your claims with scripture. Our words do not really mean much in God's eyes and according to the scriptures, only Gods' Words are true and we should believe and follow them over the teachings and traditions of men that lead us away from God's Word to break the commandments of God *see Romans 3:4; Acts of the Apostles 5:29; Matthew 15:3-9. If you cannot show from the scriptures that what is being shared here is not Gods' Word and is not true then what excuse do any of us have not to believe Gods' Word? Of course you are free to believe and do what you wish. That is between you and God. We all answer only to God come judgement day for the words of God we accept or reject according to Jesus in John 12:47-48. According to the scriptures Gods' sheep will hear His Word and follow him. Those who do not hear will not follow because they are not His sheep. (John 10:26-27).My excuse? For starters, I disagree with the ease in which you think you can pick up and read the Bible. It's clear that there's a difference between posts and Scriptures. Your posts, like those from anyone else, can be a mixture of exegesis and eisegesis, and this is because none of us can just flap open the Bible and shine it in other people's faces, claiming that it explains itself when it clearly doesn't in all cases.
I'm just the one to let you know that you're getting ahead of yourself, brother. That's all.
And you present too much at once. That kind of thing is usually called a 'snow-job,' and hardly anyone is going to take the time to read what you've printed.
The prove your claims with scripture. Or words do not really mean much in God's eyes and according to the scriptures, only Gods' Words are true and we should believe and follow them over the teachings and traditions of men that lead us away from God's Word to break the commandments of God *see Romans 3:4; Acts of the Apostles 5:29; Matthew 15:3-9. If you cannot what excuse do you have not to believe Gods' Word? Of course you are free to believe what you wish. That is between you and God. We all answer only to God come judgement day for the words of God we accept or reject according to Jesus in John 12:47-48. According to the scriptures Gods' sheep will hear His Word and follow him. Those who do not hear will not follow because they are not His sheep. (John 10:26-27).
90% of what has been written here are God's Word (scripture). What is it that you do not believe? Your welcome dear friend to prove any of your claims that what is being shared here is not God's Word. So far I have not read any scripture provided in your posts here.If only God's Words are true, then I should delete about 90% of your post since it's merely your words ABOUT the Bible that make up the post, not the Bible itself. Can you prove your point(s) without adding your own words into the mix?
SO WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAY GOD'S 4TH COMMANDMENT OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS HAVE BEEN ABOLISHED AND WE ARE NOW COMMANDED TO KEEP SUNDAY AS A HOLY DAY OF REST?
ANSWER: THERE IS NONE! There is not a single scripture in all of Gods' Word that says Gods' 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. This is a man-made teaching and tradition that has led many away from Gods' Word to break the commandments of God.
90% of what I has been written here is the Word of God (scripture). What is it that you do not believe? Your welcome dear friend to prove any of your claims that what is being shared here is not God's Word. All the scriptures have been provided in my posts showing Gods' Word. All your posts are your words that have one of Gods' Words in them (scripture). Our words and opinion do not really mean much in Gods' eyes. Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow them over the traditions and teachings of men that lead us away from Gods' Word to break the commandments of God *Romans 3:4; Acts of the Apostles 5:29; Matthew 15:3-9. It time to unlearn the lies that we have all been taught from Sunday school. God is calling us all to return to His Word and worship Him in Spirit and in truth. *John 4:23-24
Take Care.
Gods' Word does not teach lawlessness (without law). According to the scriptures in the new covenant. The purpose of God's 10 commandments is to give us a knowledge of good (moral right doing when obeyed) and evil (moral wrong doing when disobeyed); sin (moral wrong doing when disobeyed) and righteousness (moral right doing when obeyed) *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Psalms 119:172 and to lead us to Christ that we might be forgiven through faith *Galatians 3:22-25 so that we can be born again in Gods' Spirit of love *See John 3:3-7 compare with 1 John 3:4-9; Romans 13:8-10; 1 John 5:2-4 to be obedient to God's law through faith in God's Word *Romans 3:31. This is God's new covenant promise to love and love is expressed in obeying what Gods Word says not disobeying what God's Word says. That would be sin and unbelief.Because that's a given. No need to get into specifics. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. — Hebrews 8:10
Context and meaning of 2 Corinthians 3 added in here linked.2 Corinthians Ministers of a New Covenant …2You yourselves are our letter, inscribed on our hearts, known and read by everyone. 3It is clear that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.
Ok. So, let me get this straight: "your word" is God's Word. And whatever inferences, insinuations, interpolations, or interpetations, in you've made along the way to describe and amplify God's Word, thta in your estimation is also God's Word. Do I understand you correctly?
If this is so, then my first line of contention is that it is not at all either clear from Scripture that "Babylon" is some apostate Christianity, nor does your identification of such 'babylon' enjoy a consensus among scholars.
Secondly, it seems that you're wanting to avoid being accountable for your exegesis. I can't let that stand since the Bible itself does not give us any comprehensive explanation about how best to interpret it so that we all read the Bible and understand it the same way. Unless.....you have some "special measure" of the Holy Spirit that no one else has. Is that it? You have some "special measure" by which the rest of us must demur?
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