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Boy I hope they fix the problem with how the post come out soon.
I am having trouble figuring out what order the post are supposed to be in.
Please enlighten me as to just how this claim would be received any differently if a racist were to saying what you have said.The reason most of us "fundies" do not support homosexuality is not because we hate you and enjoy your suffering, it is because God labeled it a sin(or so we believe) in the bible, simple as that. So please end this foolishness that anyone hates anyone, please. It's annoying, and it edifies nobody.
The reason most of us "fundies" do not support homosexuality is not because we hate you and enjoy your suffering, it is because God labeled it a sin(or so we believe) in the bible, simple as that. So please end this foolishness that anyone hates anyone, please. It's annoying, and it edifies nobody.
Name the names of members and give evidence where they displayed hate. As I suspected, this was futile. Keep living in your delusions, sure people who hate homosexuals exist, but it's quite rare here.
Christian groups routinely and knowingly lie about homosexuals and homosexuality. How is this not an act of hate?
Ex-gay ministries routinely and knowingly lie about homosexuals and homosexuality. How is this not an act of hate?
How is advocating discrimination against an entire minority not an act of hate?
How is comparing gays and lesbians to pedophiles, murders, thieves, liars not an act of hate?
How is denying that hundreds of thousands of gays and lesbian were not murdered in Nazi death camps not an act of hate?
Can you tell me?
Where does the bible condone racism? Ugh, your heart is set in stone, there is no convincing you. Maybe I should really start acting hateful...Please enlighten me as to just how this claim would be received any differently if a racist were to saying what you have said.
Should we accept a racist saying that the reason most people labeled racist do not support civil rights and racial equality in not because they hate anyone of enjoy any form of suffering or oppression, it is simply because God labeled such things a sin in the bible?
Not what I asked.Where does the bible condone racism? Ugh, your heart is set in stone, there is no convincing you. Maybe I should really start acting hateful...
It's a dumb question and quite irrelevant, and really no reason for him to answer it, as the will of God could not be sinful. It's unfathomable.Not what I asked.
please answer the question
Dear catlover,
But Christians are to like homosexuals who behave in a hatefilled way towards Christians because of Jesus.... basically because of Jesus.
For your information my gay and lesbian friends are my friends and I appear ot be theirs, so do you hate your friends and if so how can thye be your friends if you hate them.
I dont condemn anyone, the message I tell is that Jesus Christ's testimony is that in Him no-one is condemned. You and others seem to be telling me the message I am giving is the opposite of the message I am giving.
Your attack says that it is neither dumb or irrelevant. Just as the unwillingness to honestly answer the questions says that it is neither dumb or irrelevantIt's a dumb question and quite irrelevant, and really no reason for him to answer it, as the will of God could not be sinful. It's unfathomable.
I said nothing about individual members. please dont make claims like that, it is dishonest.Name the names of members and give evidence where they displayed hate. As I suspected, this was futile. Keep living in your delusions, sure people who hate homosexuals exist, but it's quite rare here.
The fact you ignored the question is an indication that at a minimum you think bearing false witness is morally acceptable. Yet you went on in the OP about how its wrong to do what God labeled as a sin. Last time I glanced at the ten commandments lying was a sin.I don't think you know what hate means, and how do you know this, it is not proven that one's sexual orientation (or lack thereof) is inborn.Christian groups routinely and knowingly lie about homosexuals and homosexuality. How is this not an act of hate?
sounds like condemnation and hatred to me...Ex-gay ministries normally aren't condemning and hating gays, they're trying to help them "change", how is that hate? Though the lying isn't what I'd call love, if you're correct.Ex-gay ministries routinely and knowingly lie about homosexuals and homosexuality. How is this not an act of hate?
Please explain how denying equal rights to a minority is not an act of hatredWhere is this advocated? Someone not supporting gay marriage? You're right, it is, but it's not always an act of hate,How is advocating discrimination against an entire minority not an act of hate?
Red Herring. Please provide details about how children can give legal consent to marry.think of legalizing adult-child marriages, would that be hate?
Was segregation (which was biblically supprted BTW) not to make non-whites suffer? Or do you think it had some higher purpose?Remember, it's not to make you or any homosexual suffer, but biblical condemnation.
What about the equal rights of non-Christians?I myself don't support homosexual marriages, but I won't protest, as the world isn't to be held to Christian standards if they refuse to accept Christ.
So you are saying that when Christians and Christian groups lie and compare gays and lesbians to pedophiles, drug addicts, thieves etc it IS and act of hate but then that dumps the entire premise of your OP because obviously such things are hate based and you admit it.(You have no right to talk about this, given I made this thread because of posts like yours, read your own posts, you're being hypocritical.)How is comparing gays and lesbians to pedophiles, murders, thieves, liars not an act of hate?
(A lot more than gays and lesbians were murdered there, were they murdered in the name of our Lord? Did Phinehas2 order the execution, did Zaac flip the switch, did I point and laugh while they writhed to death in agony? Really.. Did you even read the OP, this is addressing members that post here.How is denying that hundreds of thousands of gays and lesbian were not murdered in Nazi death camps not an act of hate?
As to whether the post is written in the right spirit, yes definatley as it isnt he spirit that people are objecting to, it’s the Biblical texts.
The reason most of us "fundies" do not support homosexuality is not because we hate you and enjoy your suffering, it is because God labeled it a sin(or so we believe) in the bible, simple as that. So please end this foolishness that anyone hates anyone, please. It's annoying, and it edifies nobody.
Thats not quite right, thats a deception. The evidence shows we have some different benchmarks of what sexual sin is.But here's my observation: Phinehas and I both are opposed to sexual sin,
yes fair enough.And while there are a few homophobes on CF (based on post contents, which is all we have to go on),
But surely such as statement is what is self-righteousness.generally what you have is people with varying degrees of self-righteousness denouncing what they see as the sins of others.
Well this is true, this is what is happening, the Bible believing Christians do demonstrate that the Bible clearly condemns all same-sex sex and the pro-gay faction do denounce them for judgementalism.And that's true whether you're talking about "Bible-believing Christians" (BBC) holding forth that "the Bible clearly condemns all gay sex as sin" or we of the pro-gay faction denouncing the judgmentalism of the first group.
Not if we cant decide what the sin is.The bottom line here to me is that we're all sinners saved by the grace of God mediated through the Atonement of Jesus Christ -- and, as such, free from the law, not to do sin, but to love.
Then you havent read scripture properly or thoroughly. Based on your logic Genesis 19, says the men wanted to know the men, thats the same word as Adam knew Eve and conceived, that wasnt rape was it? Lot who was righteous says this was wicked yet offers his daughter. So we can see that Adam knowing Eve, a man knowing a woman is ok, and gang rape of a woman is ok compared to gang rape of men which is wicked..anal gang rape (Genesis 19 and Judges 19:22ff)
sodomitic fertility rites to Moloch and other Ba'alite deities (esp. Astarte) (Leviticus
Which includes as man lying with a man as with a woman. Note that whilst you propose this, the two chapters say anyone who does any of these practices will be cut off. Have you not got the same God? Leviticus 18 & 20 is addressed to the children of Israel saying God is their God and they must not do these practices that other nations do.18:22 and 20:13)
turning to orgiastic practices, along with malicious attitudes, in an ennui-laden search for new kicks (Romans
No idea what you are referring to. Romans 1 says for example1:21-32)
very wishful thinking and with what evidence? When you read pronos and moichos in 1 Cor 6 you know that means sex outside marriage as in Matt 19 and Mark 10, aresnokoites is male bed and almost certainly the law reference as in 1 Tim 1 to the Levicticus 18 and 20 you also dont believe.the selling and patronizing of enslaved 'rent boy' prostitutes (I Corinthians 6:9)
I'm also opposed to the sin of
But you arent opposed to the sin of Sodom as described in Leviticus. I believe all of it, if I wanted to disbelieve anything in particular I guess I would choose adultery and greed.Sodom, as defined more specifically than Genesis does in Ezekiel 16:49-50.
I can’t. What if that homosexual were a Christian who points a practicing homosexual to the warnings in the Bible which say do not be deceived, homosexual offenders shall not enter the Kingdom?I can see why a homosexual would be less than kind to a person who claims, homosexuals are not Christians and are going to hell.
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