Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland

[Michie]

Alice in Wonderland was the first book I read as a kid. This movie's visuals look stunning. I have to say, I want to see it.

I usually don't hit the theaters but I'm thinking I might on this one.

 

[Eucharisted]

Remember Avatar?

 

[Michie]

I never saw it. Most of the people I've talked to were sort of bored by it actually.

 

[Eucharisted]

Well, as you know, Avatar relied heavily upon its visual graphics. Movies like that aren't good. Alice in Wonderland will probably be the same, from what screen shots I've seen. Plus, it can butcher the story, like what Passion of the Christ did to the Gospels by relying upon unapproved revelations. But I guess when you like the movie for its emotional impact, the intellectual impact is in the back of your mind. The movie feeds your appetite but not your head. Even Satan can feed the heart with good things, if he can use those good things to get into the person's heart, thereby turning it evil. That's why I don't like movies which rely heavily upon graphics or butcher the story, especially movies where the director gives his own spin or interpretation of the story or recreates the story as a work of art, and that's why I won't see the Alice in Wonderland movie. I've seen and read enough of it to know it won't be good.

 

[Michie]

Well I like Tim Burton's Work.

I saw the Passion of Christ & liked that also.

And as far as I know, it was not based on unapproved revelations as you keep asserting.

 

[Eucharisted]

Well I like Tim Burton's Work.

I saw the Passion of Christ & liked that also.

And as far as I know, it was not based on unapproved revelations as you keep asserting.

The movie Passion of the Christ was based on Saint Emmerich's book Passion of our Lord Jesus Christ, which was later edited after her death, and therefore the Church not only ignored it when she studied Emmerich but she even did not approve of the book. So the private revelations within it are unapproved.

 

[Michie]

And she is Blessed. And yes, they are private revelations for her benefit. The Church does not approve or disapprove those unless they go against the faith.

 

[Eucharisted]

And she is Blessed. And yes, they are private revelations for her benefit. The Church does not approve or disapprove those unless they go against the faith.

Than you agree that the movie shouldn't have been based on them, if they were for her private benefit. And to claim the movie is faithful to the Gospel when it's largely based on those same revelations, too, would equally be horrific.

 

[Michie]

Than you agree that the movie shouldn't have been based on them, if they were for her private benefit. And to claim the movie is faithful to the Gospel when it's largely based on those same revelations, too, would equally be horrific.

Did I say that? Everyone that watched the film is quite aware they were based on private visions.

 

[Eucharisted]

Did I say that? Everyone that watched the film is quite aware thety were based on private visions.

No, not everyone. Most people believe it's based entirely upon the Gospels. People such as yourself, who said in another thread that the film is based on the Gospels. But as you yourself have just said and I myself have said, that isn't the case. Everyone learns and so people change their opinions over time in accordance to the truth, so I'm not calling you a hypocrite. Rather, I'm calling you to realize that there is more to a movie than what's seen on screen: There's also the material it's based upon and whether or not the movie caters to your appetites.

 

[Rhamiel]

The movie Passion of the Christ was based on Saint Emmerich's book Passion of our Lord Jesus Christ, which was later edited after her death, and therefore the Church not only ignored it when she studied Emmerich but she even did not approve of the book. So the private revelations within it are unapproved.

my understanding of the movie thje passion of the Christ is that it was based more off medieval spanish passion plays then on anything else, but so what, i mean really, it was a good movie, it got people thinking about Christ, get over it

 

[Michie]

No, not everyone. Most people believe it's based entirely upon the Gospels. People such as yourself, who said in another thread that the film is based on the Gospels. But as you yourself have just said and I myself have said, that isn't the case. Everyone learns and so people change their opinions over time in accordance to the truth, so I'm not calling you a hypocrite. Rather, I'm calling you to realize that there is more to a movie than what's seen on screen: There's also the material it's based upon and whether or not the movie caters to your appetites.

Cite?

I never said it was entirely based on the Gospels.

So you better show me unless my memory fails me. Which I do not believe it has.

 

[Eucharisted]

Read the book Alice of Wonderland here: Alice's adventures in Wonderland - Google Books

 

[Eucharisted]

Cite?

I never said it was entirely based on the Gospels.

So you better show me unless my memory fails me.

Nor did I. That's why I said you said it was "based" and not "entirely based". I was affiliating you with those who believe the movie is based entirely upon the Gospel in order to emphasis your position. Though I suppose that might be false witness, in hindsight.

 

[Rhamiel]

the movie the Passion of the Christ is based on the Gospels,
BASED ON, is everything in it 100% gospel, nooooo, it is a passion play, it is not ment to take the place of the Gospel, for one the Gospels are a lot longer then just the last night and day of Jesus' life, the Gospel is His entire life, and some geneologies thrown in, but that is not the point
the point of the movie was not to be the Gospel, but to be an act of devotion to Christ

 

[Michie]

Nor did I. That's why I said you said it was "based" and not "entirely based". I was affiliating you with those who believe the movie is based entirely upon the Gospel in order to emphasis your position. Though I suppose that might be false witness, in hindsight.

Yes I suppose it is. Because I found the thread you got upset in & nothing was said that it was entirely based on the Gospel word for word.

Nitpickery.

I don't know what your gripe is against that movie. But it's silly to say the least.

Here you go-Mel Gibson Needs Our Prayers

 

[Eucharisted]

As a token of apology, here's this:

Through the looking-glass - Google Books

 

[Michie]

As a token of apology, here's this:

Through the looking-glass - Google Books

So you are apologizing then?

 

[Michie]

the movie the Passion of the Christ is based on the Gospels,
BASED ON, is everything in it 100% gospel, nooooo, it is a passion play, it is not ment to take the place of the Gospel, for one the Gospels are a lot longer then just the last night and day of Jesus' life, the Gospel is His entire life, and some geneologies thrown in, but that is not the point
the point of the movie was not to be the Gospel, but to be an act of devotion to Christ

Yes!

 

[Eucharisted]

So you are apologizing then?

Yush.