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What John Calvin actually taught is not even close to what the vast majority of Calvinists teach. He did not teach the predestination that they teach today. He said in his commentary on Romans that to not obey God was to frustrate God's grace and that is an anethema to modern day Baptists.
If you read there right now you will find non SDAs questioning SDA theology and as you know when someone complains to a moderator offensive posts are deleted, which action I disagree with and so do most SDAs. The insults and behavior have to be really egregious for anyone to complain. The reason I want the thread there is to eliminate the egregious behavior.It is very problematic to discuss SDA beliefs in the traditional Adventist forum in any kind of critical way.
"In addition, if you are not a member of this faith group, you may not debate issues or teach against this group's theology."
Statement of Faith - Traditional Adventists Statement of Faith
Traditional Adventists Statement of Purpose A forum to discuss and fellowship together. A few things to know about Seventh-day Adventists: The fourth commandment of God's unchangeable law requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony...www.christianforums.com
SDA theology is first mentioned by the OP in post #6. Ellen is first mentioned in post #37.
If you want to talk extensively about either of those things, let's move to the denomination specific theology section. That's different from the traditional adventism section.
If you don't want to talk about either of those things, that's fine
A random proverb
Bible Gateway passage: Proverbs 11:4 - New International Reader's Version
Wealth isn’t worth anything when God judges you. But doing what is right saves you from death.www.biblegateway.com
Order, as the Jews had/have no name the for days of the week. Your humorous comment on Sunday doesn't let you off the hook though as God doesn't change to go along with human ideas.
The subject that was being discussed. You said in Europe Sunday is listed as the the seventh day of the week and that is what I'm referring to. As a Sabbath keeper I believe the 7th day of the week and God expects us to obey Him.
Not in the least. You will find no reference to a day of the week in the Bible other than by the weekly order. What modern Jews do has no bearing on what happened during Bible times.How do you explain this then? Are you just playing games with us Gary?
Agree, which is why almost every ancient language the Sabbath translates into Saturday.
I am still not sure what you are saying. That Sunday as the 7th day of the week is OK? Or not?
I thought that all calendars are man's idea.
You said "the Jews had/have no name the for days of the week." The Jewish calendar goes back to 3761 BC. It's currently the year 5783 by their reckoning.
More like it seems that you come up with things that sound correct to you.
The God never lost track of the days of the week or their order as He announced the 10 commandments on Sinai. Or do you think God is so divorced from what is happening here on earth that He forgot yhe order of the days of the week? And the Jews have kept extremely accurate records since Sinai.
Personally I'd seek a second non SDA source to corroborate what ellenwhite.info says.
