Thunder Lauriston lecture on "Why Sunday worship cannot be the Mark of the Beast"

[BobRyan]

So how is this requirement to worship on the Sabbath not a “doctrine of man”? God did not command anyone to worship on the Sabbath

Until you read scripture telling man that the seventh day Sabbath is a "Day of holy convocation" Lev 23:3.

 

[BNR32FAN]

IN Eden it was all vegetarian... no killing.

In Gen 6-9 we see the distinction between clean and unclean animals.

In Acts 10 Peter makes the case that he has not been eating rats,cats,dogs,bats etc and is not planning to start doing so

In Genesis we see that Moses wrote that Noah was told to bring seven of each clean animal. God told Moses to write that He told Noah to bring seven of each of the clean animals but God may have told Noah to bring seven of these animals, not necessarily specifically stating that the animals were considered to be clean. So the conversation between God and Noah could’ve been bring seven goats, seven ox, seven cows, etc, etc and when God told Moses to write the book of Genesis He could’ve just told Moses that He told Noah to bring seven of each of the clean animals. There’s no indication that the dietary laws were in effect before Moses went to Mt Sinai. In fact Noah was told that he could eat anything that moves right after the flood, just not to eat the animal with its blood. Noah had no restrictions on his diet and neither did anyone else until God gave the dietary laws at to Moses Mt Sinai.

As far as what Peter said in Acts 10, things were still being revealed during the apostles ministry. The necessity of circumcision wasn’t appealed until Acts 15. God’s reply to Peter in Acts 10 was “do not call unclean, that which I have made clean”. Was God only referring to the Gentiles in that statement or did that statement have more than one meaning? In 1 Corinthians 10 Paul said

“If one of the unbelievers invites you and you want to go, eat anything that is set before you without asking questions for conscience’ sake. But if anyone says to you, “This is meat sacrificed to idols,” do not eat it, for the sake of the one who informed you, and for conscience’ sake; I mean not your own conscience, but the other man’s; for why is my freedom judged by another’s conscience? If I partake with thankfulness, why am I slandered concerning that for which I give thanks?”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭10‬:‭27‬-‭30‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Why would Paul say to eat anything that is placed before you without question if they were required to observe the Jewish dietary laws?

 

[BNR32FAN]

Until you read scripture telling man that the seventh day Sabbath is a "Day of holy convocation" Lev 23:3.

Yes, did God say they were to worship? Or did He say they were to rest in Leviticus 23?

 

[BobRyan]

Yes, did God say they were to worship? Or did He say they were to rest in Leviticus 23?

Ex 20:8-11 God says "rest" .. in Lev 23:3 it is a day for "Holy Convocation"

No wonder we see Jesus in the synagogue "every Sabbath"
No wonder we see Gospel preaching to gentiles and Jews "every Sabbath" in Acts 18:4

No wonder "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship" Is 66:23 for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Ex 20:8-11 God says "rest" .. in Lev 23:3 it is a day for "Holy Convocation"

No wonder we see Jesus in the synagogue "every Sabbath"
No wonder we see Gospel preaching to gentiles and Jews "every Sabbath" in Acts 18:4

No wonder "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship" Is 66:23 for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth.

In Leviticus 23:3 it’s also a day of rest. Yes there’s a gathering but nothing about worship anywhere in the scriptures.

Yes Jesus kept the Mosaic law, He had not been crucified and resurrected yet ushering in the New Covenant.

Yes the apostles preached in the synagogues on the sabbath, what better time to is there to share the gospel with believers in God? But they also gathered on Sunday as well, didn’t they?

 

[BobRyan]

In Leviticus 23:3 it’s also a day of rest. Yes there’s a gathering but nothing about worship

Holy convocation by definition is worship - it is not a large group of sleeping people. I think you are skipping some Bible details

"A holy convocation is a public assembly / meeting set apart for God, which God designated for regular intervals. The Hebrew “miqrā'" includes a meaning with the sense of purpose specifically reading (God's word) and rehearsal (repetition and practice)."

"Holy Convocation" is "Sacred Assembly" not - - "holy sleeping"

Yes Jesus kept the Mosaic law, He had not been crucified and resurrected yet ushering in the New Covenant.

The New Covenant is found in Jer 31:31-34 and includes the Law of God spoken at Sinai - and known to Jeremiah and his readers as the Law of God -- according to the text.

Matt 28:19 - Jesus tells His disciples to go and teach everything that He taught them - which is why we have gospel accounts of Jesus' teaching and practice. As you admit - His teaching and practice was to affirm scripture - not reject it.

Yes the apostles preached in the synagogues on the sabbath, what better time to is there to share the gospel

Given that they had a weekly day of solemn assembly it is only right that they should preach the gospel to gentiles and Jews on that very day - dedicated to "sacred assembly" as we see in Lev 23:3. Holy Convocation

But they also gathered on Sunday as well, didn’t they?

There is not one text in all of the OT or NT that says that the people of God assembled every week-day-1 for Gospel preaching.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Holy convocation by definition is worship - it is not a large group of sleeping people. I think you are skipping some Bible details

"A holy convocation is a public assembly / meeting set apart for God, which God designated for regular intervals. The Hebrew “miqrā'" includes a meaning with the sense of purpose specifically reading (God's word) and rehearsal (repetition and practice)."

"Holy Convocation" is "Sacred Assembly" not - - "holy sleeping"

The Hebrew word for worship is shâchâh not miqrâ. You’re making the same mistake the Jews did when they got God’s laws wrong by trying to define what exactly is meant by assembly instead of just taking it for what was actually commanded. It’s this type of reasoning and deduction that led to the Pharisees rebuking Christ for healing on the Sabbath when it was never actually forbidden in God’s commandments. So far you still haven’t produced any evidence of God commanding anyone to worship on the sabbath.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You’re making the same mistake the Jews did when they got God’s laws wrong by trying to define what exactly is meant by assembly instead of just taking it for what was actually commanded.

Do you have a reference. What the Pharisees got wrong was keeping their rules above God's commandments. Jesus calls that worshipping in vain Mark 7:7-8 Matthew 15:3-9 which means the opposite is true, keeping the commandments of God is true worship John 4:23-24 Revelation 14:12 just as we are told all of His commandments are Truth Psalms 119:151 and righteous Psalms 119:172. Following the same example of Jesus and the apostles, who kept the commandments of God and Sabbath by gathering on the Sabbath to pray and to read, teach, preach the Word of God is not something Jesus or the apostles got wrong in their day Luke 4:16-27, Acts 13:42-44, Acts 18:4 Acts 16:13 Acts 13:27, Acts 13:14, Acts 15:21, Acts 17:2 now or in heaven/new earth Isaiah 66:22-23 according to any scripture.

It’s this type of reasoning and deduction that led to the Pharisees rebuking Christ for healing on the Sabbath when it was never actually forbidden in God’s commandments.

The Pharisees were adding man-made rules to God's commandments, there is nothing wrong with healing on the Sabbath, which is quite different than saying there is no scripture that the Sabbath is a holy convocation (holy gathering/assembly) Lev 23:3 and the example left by Jesus and the apostles which we are to follow 1 John 2:6

So far you still haven’t produced any evidence of God commanding anyone to worship on the sabbath.

Keeping the Sabbath day holy Exodus 20:8 by honoring Him on His holy day Isaiah 58:13 and worshipping Him is one of the same. God sanctified only the seventh day Genesis 2:1-3 Exodus 20:8-11 meaning it was set aside for holy use and our worship is worthy on the day God blessed, sanctified, made holy versus a day that God deemed for all works and labors Exodus 20:9, surprised anyone would try to make an argument against this tbh.

 

[BNR32FAN]

The New Covenant is found in Jer 31:31-34 and includes the Law of God spoken at Sinai - and known to Jeremiah and his readers as the Law of God -- according to the text.

Matt 28:19 - Jesus tells His disciples to go and teach everything that He taught them - which is why we have gospel accounts of Jesus' teaching and practice. As you admit - His teaching and practice was to affirm scripture - not reject it.

According to the Jewish law, not a direct commitment from God and not what Jesus said, but according to Jewish law was it permitable to heal someone on the Sabbath? No it wasn’t, but Jesus corrected them because that was not what God had commanded. The Jews went beyond God’s commandments with the law in order to ensure that they would not inadvertently break any of them. So they had to determine what was considered to be work just like you’re trying to determine what a holy assembly means. So your conclusion is that a holy assembly means worship but just like the mistake the Jews made that was not what God commanded. If you’re going to follow Jesus’ example then there is no new covenant. Jesus was circumcised, so if you follow His example then circumcision is still a requirement to enter into God’s covenant. Observing the Passover would still be a requirement to remain in God’s covenant. Observing the dietary laws would still be a requirement. Paul specifically stated that we are not to be judged for keeping the Sabbath in Colossians 2:16. He also said that we can eat anything that is put before us without question so long as no one tells us that it was offered to idols.

This is my big question, what makes your theology any different than that of the Galatians?

 

[BobRyan]

According to the Jewish law, not a direct commitment from God and not what Jesus said, but according to Jewish law was it permitable to heal someone on the Sabbath?

When you say not according to God or Jesus but according to 'Jewish law' do you mean some document Jews authored and not God? so then "Not scripture"? Not "The Word of God"??

2 Tim 3:15 "all scripture is given by inspiration from God"
Heb 3 "The Holy Spirit said ..." referencing text in the OT.

Are you talking about "Jewish tradition" as in Mark 7:6-13???

No it wasn’t, but Jesus corrected them because that was not what God had commanded.

Jesus often corrected Jewish tradition as we see in Mark 7.

The Jews went beyond God’s commandments with the law

agreed.

And often violated the Law in their idea of tradition as Christ points out in Mark 7.

Mark 7:

6 But He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written:​

‘This people honors Me with their lips,​

But their heart is far away from Me.​

7 And in vain do they worship Me,​

Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’​

8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”​

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9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘The one who speaks evil of father or mother, is certainly to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a person says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is, given to God),’ 12 you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thereby invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”​

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But that is not what we see here -

The New Covenant is found in Jer 31:31-34 and includes the Law of God spoken at Sinai - and known to Jeremiah and his readers as the Law of God -- according to the text
.

Matt 28:19 - Jesus tells His disciples to go and teach everything that He taught them - which is why we have gospel accounts of Jesus' teaching and practice. As you admit - His teaching and practice was to affirm scripture - not reject it.

 

[BNR32FAN]

When you say not according to God or Jesus but according to 'Jewish law' do you mean some document Jews authored and not God? so then "Not scripture"? Not "The Word of God"??

2 Tim 3:15 "all scripture is given by inspiration from God"
Heb 3 "The Holy Spirit said ..." referencing text in the OT.

Are you talking about "Jewish tradition" as in Mark 7:6-13???

Jesus often corrected Jewish tradition as we see in Mark 7.



agreed.

And often violated the Law in their idea of tradition as Christ points out in Mark 7.

Mark 7:

6 But He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written:​

‘This people honors Me with their lips,​

But their heart is far away from Me.​

7 And in vain do they worship Me,​

Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’​

8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”​

​

9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘The one who speaks evil of father or mother, is certainly to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a person says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is, given to God),’ 12 you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thereby invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”​

​

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But that is not what we see here -

The New Covenant is found in Jer 31:31-34 and includes the Law of God spoken at Sinai - and known to Jeremiah and his readers as the Law of God -- according to the text
.

Matt 28:19 - Jesus tells His disciples to go and teach everything that He taught them - which is why we have gospel accounts of Jesus' teaching and practice. As you admit - His teaching and practice was to affirm scripture - not reject it.

In all of that you still didn’t address the fact that you’re making the same mistake that the Jews made by implementing regulations that God did not command. That was the whole point of that post and you didn’t address it.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Do you have a reference. What the Pharisees got wrong was keeping their rules above God's commandments. Jesus calls that worshipping in vain Mark 7:7-8 Matthew 15:3-9 which means the opposite is true, keeping the commandments of God is true worship John 4:23-24 Revelation 14:12 just as we are told all of His commandments are Truth Psalms 119:151 and righteous Psalms 119:172. Following the same example of Jesus and the apostles, who kept the commandments of God and Sabbath by gathering on the Sabbath to pray and to read, teach, preach the Word of God is not something Jesus or the apostles got wrong in their day Luke 4:16-27, Acts 13:42-44, Acts 18:4 Acts 16:13 Acts 13:27, Acts 13:14, Acts 15:21, Acts 17:2 now or in heaven/new earth Isaiah 66:22-23 according to any scripture.

Again if your going to use Jesus as an example who was a Jew living during the old Covenant then your going to have to be circumcised and keep all of the 613 laws.

What makes your theology any different from that of the Galatians?

 

[BNR32FAN]

When you say not according to God or Jesus but according to 'Jewish law' do you mean some document Jews authored and not God? so then "Not scripture"? Not "The Word of God"??

2 Tim 3:15 "all scripture is given by inspiration from God"
Heb 3 "The Holy Spirit said ..." referencing text in the OT.

Are you talking about "Jewish tradition" as in Mark 7:6-13???

Jesus often corrected Jewish tradition as we see in Mark 7.



agreed.

And often violated the Law in their idea of tradition as Christ points out in Mark 7.

Mark 7:

6 But He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written:​

‘This people honors Me with their lips,​

But their heart is far away from Me.​

7 And in vain do they worship Me,​

Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’​

8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”​

​

9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘The one who speaks evil of father or mother, is certainly to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a person says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is, given to God),’ 12 you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thereby invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”​

​

=============================

But that is not what we see here -

The New Covenant is found in Jer 31:31-34 and includes the Law of God spoken at Sinai - and known to Jeremiah and his readers as the Law of God -- according to the text
.

Matt 28:19 - Jesus tells His disciples to go and teach everything that He taught them - which is why we have gospel accounts of Jesus' teaching and practice. As you admit - His teaching and practice was to affirm scripture - not reject it.

You didn’t answer this question.

This is my big question, what makes your theology any different than that of the Galatians?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Again if your going to use Jesus as an example who was a Jew living during the old Covenant then your going to have to be circumcised and keep all of the 613 laws.

What makes your theology any different from that of the Galatians?

Jesus lived and is the Mediator of the New Covenant Hebrews 9:15 the covenant God writes His laws in the hearts and minds of His people Jer 31:33, Hebrews 8:10 which was ratified by His blood. Jesus died not only to save us from our sins Matthew 1:21 which is the transgression of God's law 1 John 3:4 and Paul points right to the Ten Commandments to define what sin is Romans 7:7 but to give us the example of how to live 1 John 2:6. There is no scripture that says we are to do something different than what Jesus did. Jesus kept the commandments of God and taught them. John 15:10, Mark 5:19-30, Matthew 19:17-19, Luke 4:16-23 John 14:15 Matthew 15:3-9

Paul makes it pretty clear what matters and makes a distinction between the ceremonial type laws and the commandments of God, which includes the Sabbath commandment, personally written and spoken by God and kept by Jesus and the apostles who are the example to follow.

1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.

What makes your theology any different from that of the Galatians?

The Galatians were trying to make new gentiles keep many of the Jewish traditions, like circumcision which is clearly shown in easy-to-understand language is not a requirement nothing in Galatians about not keeping one of God eternal Ten Commandments. There is no scripture in all of God's Word saying we no longer need to keep one of God's Ten Commandments that are kept in the Most Holy of God's Temple personally written by God personally spoken by God.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Paul makes it pretty clear what matters and makes a distinction between the ceremonial type laws and the commandments of God, which includes the Sabbath commandment, personally written and spoken by God and kept by Jesus and the apostles who are the example to follow.

The example that Jesus and the apostles gave was keeping the entire law including the ceremonial laws. You keep trying to use what Jesus and the apostles did as an example for us to follow but they kept the ENTIRE LAW not just the 10 commandments and the dietary laws.

Paul also made it crystal clear that we are not to be judged for not observing the sabbath or the dietary laws in Colossians 2:16 and again in Romans 14.

“Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭16‬-‭17‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

And again in Romans 14

“One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. For it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall give praise to God.” So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather determine this—not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in a brother’s way. I know and am convinced in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but to him who thinks anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. For if because of food your brother is hurt, you are no longer walking according to love. Do not destroy with your food him for whom Christ died. Therefore do not let what is for you a good thing be spoken of as evil; for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. For he who in this way serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. So then we pursue the things which make for peace and the building up of one another. Do not tear down the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are clean, but they are evil for the man who eats and gives offense.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14‬:‭2‬-‭20‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

If you’re going to follow Jesus’ and the apostle’s example you’re going to have to keep the ENTIRE LAW including the ceremonial laws because that’s what they did.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The example that Jesus and the apostles gave was keeping the entire law including the ceremonial laws. You keep trying to use what Jesus and the apostles did as an example for us to follow but they kept the ENTIRE LAW not just the 10 commandments and the dietary laws.

Paul also made it crystal clear that we are not to be judged for not observing the sabbath or the dietary laws in Colossians 2:16 and again in Romans 14.

“Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭16‬-‭17‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

And again in Romans 14

“One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. For it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall give praise to God.” So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather determine this—not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in a brother’s way. I know and am convinced in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but to him who thinks anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. For if because of food your brother is hurt, you are no longer walking according to love. Do not destroy with your food him for whom Christ died. Therefore do not let what is for you a good thing be spoken of as evil; for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. For he who in this way serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. So then we pursue the things which make for peace and the building up of one another. Do not tear down the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are clean, but they are evil for the man who eats and gives offense.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14‬:‭2‬-‭20‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

If you’re going to follow Jesus’ and the apostle’s example you’re going to have to keep the ENTIRE LAW including the ceremonial laws because that’s what they did.

Please read Col 2:14 KJV which gives context to Col 2:16 people never take the time to look at the context for some odd reason. The Sabbath is holy and blessed-which can't be reversed Num 23:20 and the weekly Sabbath is a commandment- not an ordinance, the weekly Sabbath that is God's holy day Isaiah 58:13 Exodus 20:10 the day HE hallowed Exodus 20:8-11 that Jesus said was made for man Mark 2:27 and He is Lord of Mark 2:28 that continues in heaven Isaiah 66:22-23 is not contrary or against us - the context doesn't fit yet people don't seem to care and plug forward anyway- same with Romans 14- not once does it mention the Sabbath commandment in the entire chapter.

You're argument about the ceremonial laws is not a good one when we have clear scripture we no longer keep them 1 Cor 7:19, Col 2:14-17, Hebrews 10:1-22, yet nothing about not keeping one of God's Ten Commandments that He personally wrote and spoke kept in the Most Holy of His Temple, where He dwells Revelation 11:19 under His mercy seat where He says right in His finger written law.- Exodus 20:6

Anyway, we have been through this before and showing context in more detail, which I could , but would probably be fruitless, so I will leave it as a agree to disagree and it gets sorted out soon enough.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Jesus lived and is the Mediator of the New Covenant Hebrews 9:15 the covenant God writes His laws in the hearts and minds of His people

Yeah well obviously He didn’t write it on anyone’s heart in the church until Ellen White finally came along in the 19th century. You don’t find that to be strange at all?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Yeah well obviously He didn’t write it on anyone’s heart in the church until Ellen White finally came along in the 19th century. You don’t find that to be strange at all?

Jesus always had a people who kept the commandments including the Sabbath, it's always been a remnant and still is Revelation 12:17 KJV. Thankfully God raises messengers because He has compassion for His people which sadly are usually mocked a 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 God does so to shine the light back on His Word- the Sabbath started at Creation Genesis 2:1-3 and is a commandment of God that HE wrote and spoke, regardless of human opinions. He just wants to spend time with His people on the day He set aside sanctified and blessed, yet people reject this for some strange reason and prefer to follow something that is not a commandment, no scripture to support, a day that is not holy or blessed by God, but a working day. God even warned us the change would happen Dan 7:25 and we have clear history of this happening. We can't say we were not warned.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Jesus always had a people who kept the commandments including the Sabbath, it's always been a remnant and still is Revelation 12:17 KJV. Thankfully God raises messengers because He has compassion for His people and will do so to shine the light back on His Word- the Sabbath started at Creation Genesis 2:1-3 and is a commandment of God that HE wrote and spoke, regardless of human opinions. He just wants to spend time with His people on the day He set aside sanctified and blessed, yet people reject this for some strange reason and prefer to follow something that is not a commandment, no scripture to support, a day that is not holy or blessed by God, but a working day. God even warned us the change would happen Dan 7:25 and we have clear history of this happening. We can't say we were not warned.

Really? Who?

 

[BNR32FAN]

Jesus always had a people who kept the commandments including the Sabbath, it's always been a remnant and still is Revelation 12:17 KJV. Thankfully God raises messengers because He has compassion for His people which sadly are usually mocked a 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 God does so to shine the light back on His Word- the Sabbath started at Creation Genesis 2:1-3 and is a commandment of God that HE wrote and spoke, regardless of human opinions. He just wants to spend time with His people on the day He set aside sanctified and blessed, yet people reject this for some strange reason and prefer to follow something that is not a commandment, no scripture to support, a day that is not holy or blessed by God, but a working day. God even warned us the change would happen Dan 7:25 and we have clear history of this happening. We can't say we were not warned.

Wrong because I gave you verses that specifically state that the sabbath and the dietary laws have been abolished as a requirement.