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Three annointings

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David son of Jesse, who is a type of Messiah, was anointed by the Samuel three times.
Anointed to be King
1 Sam 16:13 Then Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed [David] in the midst of his brothers (in Bethlehem); and the Spirit of God came mightily upon David from that day forward.

Anointed to be King of Judah
2 Sam 2:4 Then the men of Juda
h came and there (in Hebron) anointed David king over the house of Judah.

Anointed to be king of Israel
2 Sam 5:3 So all the elders of Israel (all 12 tribes) came to the king at Hebron, and King David made a b'rit (covenant) with them before God at Hebron: then they anointed David king over Israel. David was 30 years old when he became king, and he reigned 40 years. At Hebron he reigned over Judah 7 years and 6 months, and in Jerusalem he reigned 33 years over all Israel and Judah.

The three anointings were made in the ever growing presence of three different sets of people, his family in Bethlehem were present for the first anointing, then the whole tribe of Judah including his family and then all 12 tribes of Israel including the tribe of Judah and his family.

And this is the pattern of your own spiritual journey and interaction with the Holy Spirit.
Eph 1:13 You also were included in Messiah when you heard the word of truth, the Gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession - to the praise of his glory
 

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This is also seen within the appointed feasts. The Divine Promise contained within God's feasts are sealed by His Holy Spirit unfolds according to the laid out plan hidden in plain sight in the annual festivals. We individually repent by getting the leaven of sin out of our lives (the Feast of Unleavened Bread) because of what He has done for us (Passover), enter into the Covenant of Shavuot starting with the wave sheaf and first fruits and then receiving the Second Anointing of spiritual insight at Pentecost. We continue working out our salvation corporately as Messianics, making a complete and total repentance as we approach the final judgment and final seal of Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement), Yeshua's wedding with His bride, and complete union with us, His royal priesthood people, His chosen, so that we are ready for the third and final anointing of Sukkot (Tabernacles) on the eighth day of the River of Water flowing from the throne of grace. We must be ready at the appointed time and be prepared for the up coming spiritual fulfillment and realization of the moedim (appointments) with God are real mind blowing, paradigm of outside man's parameters of changing events.
 
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that is nice vision !!

but I need you to explain how this is us as individuals?

I see it as Jesus now has taken ownership of the world since his death ( they mocking proclaimed him king of the jews.... and anointed in his own blood to be king)
then he will have to be anointed/proclaimed king of Judah first and rule 7 years( well maybe 3 1/2 and then 3 1/2 is left over )( and the 33 is very interesting )
But Judah's 7 has to come first and be fully fulfilled .. before being anointed/proclaimed/ take possession of all 10 lost boys = new Israel = a completed Zion .

NOW the 7 years and the 33 years are very interesting and I'm not completely positive just how yet though. everyone has got to see it is significant picture of something to do with his rule and his reign on this earth. those numbers are just way too interesting.
 
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Also three annointings...the three office of

prophet...manifested in his three year ministry

Priest...manifested in his death, burial, and resurection, including his ascension.

And king...manifested in our heart but manifested in the world at his return

So he is working in us to proclaim his rightousness and glory in the earth to those who are not walking in his way....to streangthen and encourage the complete trust and reliance in him of our bretheren in the earth....to be humbled as servents under his hand to all men....that he might raise us up to rule and reign as he is.
 
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that is nice vision !!

but I need you to explain how this is us as individuals?

I see it as Jesus now has taken ownership of the world since his death ( they mocking proclaimed him king of the jews.... and anointed in his own blood to be king)
then he will have to be anointed/proclaimed king of Judah first and rule 7 years( well maybe 3 1/2 and then 3 1/2 is left over )( and the 33 is very interesting )
But Judah's 7 has to come first and be fully fulfilled .. before being anointed/proclaimed/ take possession of all 10 lost boys = new Israel = a completed Zion .

NOW the 7 years and the 33 years are very interesting and I'm not completely positive just how yet though. everyone has got to see it is significant picture of something to do with his rule and his reign on this earth. those numbers are just way too interesting.
We are to keep the fall feasts just as those in Yeshua's first coming kept them while they were being fulfilled.

We are to get the blessings of keeping the spring feasts, with the anointing of Pentecost, the pass over us, our first fruit example what we are to be in the harvest, and now the up coming fall feasts with the blowing of the trumpets [visions and prophesying] fulfillments preparing a people for the great Yom Kippur fulfillment, the wedding when the people of God become one with Him, a fullness of anointing for ever instilled, a people sealed for all time and eternity, and the blessed glory of His return on the eighth day of the Feast of Tabernacles, the seven days of tabernacling with Him.

That is individual and collectively corporately with all others who are spiritually following the path outlined in the appointed times. We will not be able to say "such and such" group organization will collectively make it, but we can say that those individuals who make up God's Kingdom will.
 
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Vis, are you excluding Christians here?
I am saying that God is the determiner of who is in and who is out. Title, groups, organizations, theologies are not what makes the grade. Individual commitment and relationship with Him does.
 
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I am saying that God is the determiner of who is in and who is out. Title, groups, organizations, theologies are not what makes the grade. Individual commitment and relationship with Him does.
Well, I asked because you sound as though you are talking about keeping the feasts and the effectiveness of doing that

"We are to get the blessings of keeping the spring feasts,"
"with the anointing of Pentecost"
 
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I am saying that God is the determiner of who is in and who is out. Title, groups, organizations, theologies are not what makes the grade. Individual commitment and relationship with Him does.
I agree 100%

the kingdom of heaven is like .....
it is all about those lamps and that oil...

yep it wasn't 5 hookers and 5 virgins... it was 10 virgins who had kept themselves from the world.. so the question has to become, so what is the light ? and what is oil? it is him. he is the light of the world we have to buy oil and it has to be refined by him..

it is not as much about keeping ourselves pure from the world , any kind of religious experience can make us feel that special and new..... .. but keeping ourselves right with him.

OR

it is not about what we don't do , or what we do for him...
but what we do do with him. that only is about him and his kingdom.

OR

:p

ok I'll quit!
 
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Well, I asked because you sound as though you are talking about keeping the feasts and the effectiveness of doing that

"We are to get the blessings of keeping the spring feasts,"
"with the anointing of Pentecost"
Annier during those Feast God gives gifts and promises of more gifts...to humanity... these mini plays...picture plays.. are loaded with the rules of a covenant he is offering mankind and what it means to be or stay faithful to him in our covenants with him..
are they salvation.. NO he is Salvation .. but they do help Us understand his all kinds of his things become clearer. and sure teach us more about him and what he expects and hopes for from us and about our ends of that covenant he is promising that has not been fully fulfilled yet. ..
well we learn more about him , than we do from pinks bunnies who lays colored eggs or fat guys in red suits might teach us about him . :p
 
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Annier during those Feast God gives gifts and promises of more gifts...to humanity... these mini plays...picture plays.. are loaded with the rules of a covenant he is offering mankind and what it means to be or stay faithful to him in our covenants with him..
are they salvation.. NO he is Salvation .. but they do help Us understand his all kinds of his things become clearer. and sure teach us more about him and what he expects and hopes for from us and about our ends of that covenant he is promising that has not been fully fulfilled yet. ..
well we learn more about him , than we do from pinks bunnies who lays colored eggs or fat guys in red suits might teach us about him . :p
I was thinking more along the lines of it sounding very similar to sacraments. Pink bunnies and red suits have nothing to do with the idea of performing something to have a benefit, like a sacrament.
 
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I was thinking more along the lines of it sounding very similar to sacraments. Pink bunnies and red suits have nothing to do with the idea of performing something to have a benefit, like a sacrament.
yes well like the sacraments. well yes the sacraments all came from the jewish feasts and Sabbaths and such but are only emotionally removed from the feast. maybe so as to not appear to be jewish.

His death, burial and resurrection and then pentecost teach us that he likes to reveal his plans on, in and through his feast days.. so sure the sacraments and the feasts ,and the days in each feast , can be very very symbolic and mini prophetic pictures of things yet to come and promises made .
 
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I was thinking more along the lines of it sounding very similar to sacraments. Pink bunnies and red suits have nothing to do with the idea of performing something to have a benefit, like a sacrament.
God never performs sacraments. God is the one blessing His children here and this is for real and not just some mumbo jumbo talk.
 
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I was thinking more along the lines of it sounding very similar to sacraments. Pink bunnies and red suits have nothing to do with the idea of performing something to have a benefit, like a sacrament.

There is no magic word ,or potion , or incantation, listed in scripture that will make YHWH give us anything...He is a Father he gives to us because he loves us....without meaning to I instituted a feast day in my family that I think would shed light on what we are discussing.

On fathers day since my children were young I would load them up for a day out with dad....we would go to a nice restaurant and do some tupe of activity. This "feast day" formed into some of my childrens and my best memories of their childhood. On my end the day made to honor me became about my children and seeing them happy...on my childrens end a father who worked seven days a week and seemed distant was all about them for a brief time(I was young and have my regretts)
But the point is nobody was earning anything on either end...we were just loving each other. So it is with YHWH's feast a time to be happy and remember and trust what he had done and promised.
 
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God never performs sacraments. God is the one blessing His children here and this is for real and not just some mumbo jumbo talk.
Mumbo jumbo talk? Nanna was the one who said there were blessings and gifts given because of doing something. That sounds very similar to a SACRAMENT. That is all.
 
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We are to get the blessings of keeping the spring feasts, with the anointing of Pentecost, the pass over us, our first fruit example what we are to be in the harvest, and now the up coming fall feasts with the blowing of the trumpets [visions and prophesying] fulfillments preparing a people for the great Yom Kippur fulfillment, the wedding when the people of God become one with Him, a fullness of anointing for ever instilled, a people sealed for all time and eternity, ...
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We continue working out our salvation corporately as Messianics, making a complete and total repentance as we approach the final judgment and final seal of Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement), Yeshua's wedding with His bride, and complete union with us, ...
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Matthew 25:1-13 ~ The Parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins (NKJB)​

1-5 “Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept."

6-10 “And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!’ Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’ And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut."

11-12 “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ "

13 “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming."

 
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Mumbo jumbo talk? Nanna was the one who said there were blessings and gifts given because of doing something. That sounds very similar to a SACRAMENT. That is all.


as prophesy they proclaim a coming fulfillment that he promised...

Like have you received salvation?

have you already been saved ?
and so are you in heaven now?
no our day of salvation and a day of redemption is still coming, there is a day or two or three of it still to come and the ultimate last fulfillment of it.. which is the New heaven and new earth and New nations and new Jerusalem.. that is salvation completed .. but there is a lots of promises made between Now and that day.
do you even know what salvation looks like?
his feasts show us the promises he made to us.
since MOSES! since Abraham ! since Adam!
so we get to see what those promises look like in a smallest of ways.. but it is still there to get a tiny taste of what he wants to give us because he loves us and hope we walk with him all the way through to that last day when Salvation is complete .
 
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as prophesy they proclaim a coming fulfillment that he promised...
I understand what you are saying about their proclamation. I was only commenting on the idea that keeping rituals bring gifts or blessings etc. That idea goes into the realm of a sacrament. Many in Mjism speak of such things. You are not the first, and I doubt you will be the last. I was just taking note of it is all.
Like have you received salvation?

have you already been saved ?

and so are you in heaven now?
no our day of salvation and a day of redemption is still coming, there is a day or two or three of it still to come and the ultimate last fulfillment of it.. which is the New heaven and new earth and New nations and new Jerusalem.. that is salvation completed .. but there is a lots of promises made between Now and that day.
do you even know what salvation looks like?
his feasts show us the promises he made to us.
since MOSES! since Abraham ! since Adam!
so we get to see what those promises look like in a smallest of ways.. but it is still there to get a tiny taste of what he wants to give us because he loves us and hope we walk with him all the way through to that last day when Salvation is complete .
The way I see it is....
The spring feasts are the fulfillment of the Abrahamic covenant of promise. Israel foreshadowed that in Moses. The salvation of our souls. Passover, Unleavened bread, and Pentecost, are feasts which memorialize the fulfilled promises made to The Son's of Abraham 430 years earlier, in the Abrahamic covenant. We have these fulfilled for all Abraham's seed in Christ.
The fall feasts are by the covenant made with Israel at Sinai, and concern coming judgements, which we who are in covenant through Christ, have already been judged righteous in him. He has already given an atonement for sin. We who are in Christ, will receive the redemption of our bodies from death in the resurrection of the dead.

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