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I should have included the stipulation from the start that no creationist has provided any science in support of creationism -
Hop to what? I agree with you. There is no science that supports creationism; since God didn't use science to create the universe.Oh, and now that you know the real challenge, you can hop to it.
Of course not; creationism isn't science.
Edison went through 10,000 failed experiments. But he learned a lot along the way.yeah the whole basis of the thread is off.
science is constantly going to get things wrong, go down dead ends, have failed experiments. You typically produce 99 wrong answers before you find the right one that works. There is funding, fame and glory for those on the cutting edge and you will get fraudsters and liars trying to get in on the act.
None of this in any way invalidates any of the actual science that works, has been proven and is backed by solid evidence, prediction and experimentation.
In order to be a Creationist they had to reconcile their Science with their faith. This takes extra effort. Something Darwin was just to lazy to do. Any Science that can not be reconciled with TRUE Creationism is going to fail, it is just a matter of time. You really can not have one without the other. Creationism fails without science and science fails without creationism.That however does not mean that any of them used creationism in their science
Hop to what? I agree with you. There is no science that supports creationism; since God didn't use science to create the universe.
Now you know why I'm sometimes called 'backwater', or any of its various synonyms.What is pertinent is that every creationist I've ever encountered claims that science can be used to derive facts about 'creation', and that known science supports the 'creation account'.
Until now, apparently.
Science is not a hermenuetic for the bible. God created through a series of miracles, and miracles cannot be measured, tested, or recreated (pun intended) by science.AV1611VET said:Now you know why I'm sometimes called 'backwater', or any of its various synonyms.
And for the record, maybe you need to get out more; our asst. pastor preached a message a couple of months ago and mentioned in his sermon that creationism has nothing to do with science.
Science is not a hermenuetic for the bible. God created through a series of miracles, and miracles cannot be measured, tested, or recreated (pun intended) by science.
Trogool said:So you agree with AV and AV's preacher that creationism is scientific nonsense. Yay.
Science is not a hermenuetic for the bible. God created through a series of miracles, and miracles cannot be measured, tested, or recreated (pun intended) by science.
CabVet said:Oh, someone that agrees with me! (not about the content, but about miracles)
In order to be a Creationist they had to reconcile their Science with their faith. This takes extra effort. Something Darwin was just to lazy to do. Any Science that can not be reconciled with TRUE Creationism is going to fail, it is just a matter of time. You really can not have one without the other. Creationism fails without science and science fails without creationism.
This just seems to be an extension of the creationist lies thread.
No, this is theistic evolution. Creationism is about rejecting science for faith.In order to be a Creationist they had to reconcile their Science with their faith.
It takes cognitive dissonance..This takes extra effort.
Something Darwin was too intellectually honest to do. Just look at your own O.P. and you can see that creationists are incapable of intellectual honesty when it comes to matters which conflict with their faith.Something Darwin was just to lazy to do.
Whatever is "TRUE Creationism?"Any Science that can not be reconciled with TRUE Creationism is going to fail, it is just a matter of time.
You really can not have one without the other. Creationism fails without science and science fails without creationism.
Amen, brother!Science is not a hermenuetic for the bible. God created through a series of miracles, and miracles cannot be measured, tested, or recreated (pun intended) by science.
Not science ≠ scientific nonsense.So you agree with AV and AV's preacher that creationism is scientific nonsense. Yay.
You are familiar with the Lady Hope story, are you not?You are of course aware that Darwin lost his faith largely as a result of the death of his daughter -
You are familiar with the Lady Hope story, are you not?
I don't know if it is a true story or not, but if it is true, then Mr. Darwin is in Heaven right now; if it is not true, then Mr. Darwin is in Hell.
I prefer to believe the Lady Hope story for Mr. Darwin's sake.
Pascal's Wager
I don't know if it is a true story or not, but if it is true, then Mr. Darwin is in Heaven right now; if it is not true, then Mr. Darwin is in Hell.
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