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Aseyesee said:
Like the kingdom there are stages in how we relate to the judgment God becomes to us, and by default we relate to others in the form we presently see it in.
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All are righteous--
 
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We are more of an integral part of the realty that we live in then most are willing to accept

this is a truth which cuts through joints and marrow when pondered

Edit: not sure if using correct terminology here?
 
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I have absolute faith, the faith of God (which at first appears as a measure/seed); that the only one lost is the one that never was.

Jesus accomplished everything in himself, then showed the way back in litetal form as the absolute of being it, which becomes a relative truth; an inhertiance in the form of an, all in all.
 
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in reflection ... I have been given exactly what i have asked for
( speaking of this soul that measures this life ) to the point where it appears I have created my own truth/destiny ... and can testify that this reality I have composed is not what I want but serves a purpose to reveal to me what I have need of ...
 
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shadows are not truths but reflections of truths ... this one that never was is this shadow we cast before us having our back to the light ... when we turn to see we will see only light having no shadow before us ...
 
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Love your GLORY/growing long hair/faith and I agree!
 
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Aseyesee said:
And Enoch walked with God three hundred years, and was not for God took him ...

You cannot walk with God without becoming him.
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Spot On! was just talking with a friend about this!!!
 
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Aseyesee said:
We begin to understand free will when we give up our will; which is inclusive in the statement of our whole soul.
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No duality...no more war...liberty and freedom.

As long as 'self' unknowing of the son that we are fights to live, only bondage and warring until that knowledge/understanding is perceived as the one that we are. ...our whole soul, no longer two warring for our own will is contrary to God's...The son knows the will of The Father...

Jesus in the wilderness of temptation a perfect picture ... He remained free by will ...as the son He knew that He was...
 
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My thoughts are that we are all spirit which is the will of God.
 
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My thoughts are that we are all spirit which is the will of God.
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Agree! But until our eyes are opened to that...we don't know that we know we are the son that we are.
 
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how can we have such a thing as free will ... we have will yes but its not free ... i guess i see this from another angle ... same truth in the sense of how we understand this but how are we ever to be free from our Fathers will seeing this would imply separation ... and we know this is not the case

And then there is the law which when understood ( become one with by perception ) by the collective we as individuals will be set free in Him as Him and seeing our Father is outside of time/proses having finished His works and is now resting in us already and He most certainly is free this so then becomes like circular speak because this be a hard belief to pin down with a soulish/measurable explanation, so as you have no doubt fathomed I be stuck on a truth, so can you expand on this please because as I see it having GODS will frees us from our own will
 
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as I see it having GODS will frees us from our own will
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As Jesus' wilderness temptation...having/knowing HIS Father's will...eyes wide open...as opposed to those who choose their own will that speaks to bondage and in prison...but then again, do these even KNOW there is a choice?

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how can we have such a thing as free will ... we have will yes but its not free ...
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So, yeah...we have will...and it is not FREE...but then again, the perception changes to us in process and choice does arise of which to do...will of the Father or of 'self' satisfying...but then again, that keeps one in bondage/not free.

It is circular, indeed...
 
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