Thoughts on charismatic mass?

[Rhamiel]

Bene, I do agree with you, it is just the OP is a very new poster and we do not know where she is at in her walk with Christ, or in how well she knows church doctrine, some of the concepts you mentioned might be a little hard for her to understand
i am just saying take it slow

 

[Nickieb03]

So wait the healing mass might not work? but I thought anything with God is possible? =( I want it to work because I can't live like this anymore.

 

[benedictaoo]

So wait the healing mass might not work? but I thought anything with God is possible? =( I want it to work because I can't live like this anymore.

What do you mean work?

We are healed by God if He wills it. Bottom line. There is no slot machine God here.

Did you read what I wrote?

Some, very few ppl have a valid gift of healing and God gave these ppl this gift so God's ppl could be healed to show that He is both relevant and that He is (I am who Am).

It is not a given that a person who has a valid gift of healing (and just because it's a so called charismatic Mass does not guarantee a person has a valid gift to heal) will heal anyone and everyone who comes to them.

God will heal the person if it benefits the Church or if it's His will for His reasons.

I do not know if you are posting as a joke or if you really do not know...

Jesus presence in all the Tabernacles through the world is what heals.

I can be healed in my living room by just asking God to heal me and if it is His will to heal me that way- He will do it.

If He heals by way of a Saint intersession or their relic, it is because God wills it in order to build His Church and show ppl His love and mercy and power and grace.

God is not a magic bullet or a Genie lamp we rub. He heals ppl for a purpose and what ever His purpose is for your life, you need to resolve to accept His will.

 

[benedictaoo]

Bene, I do agree with you, it is just the OP is a very new poster and we do not know where she is at in her walk with Christ, or in how well she knows church doctrine, some of the concepts you mentioned might be a little hard for her to understand
i am just saying take it slow

I don't know how much slower I could go...

A) Few ppl have the gift of healing.

B) Just because some one says so, does not mean they do.

C) Charismatic Masses are not some other kind of Mass that guarantees a healing or the out pouring of the Holy Spirit.

D) Charismatic Masses are by and large a unnecessary distinction. They tend to put God in a box and the Holy Spirit in a box as well.

E) Healing Masses are for ppl to go with expecting faith that God can, if He wills, do anything.

F) A healing Mass is not a guarantee, a magic formula.

G) No, it might not "work" in the sense the person might not get what they expect.

H) A person needs to go asking but resolve themselves to accept God's will. "As you will it, not as I will it..."

I) God does not heal everybody in the way they may feel they need to be healed but God works everything for the good, for those who love Him who are called according to His purpose.

 

[Nickieb03]

What do you mean work?

We are healed by God if He wills it. Bottom line. There is no slot machine God here.

Did you read what I wrote?

Some, very few ppl have a valid gift of healing and God gave these ppl this gift so God's ppl could be healed to show that He is both relevant and that He is (I am who Am).

It is not a given that a person who has a valid gift of healing (and just because it's a so called charismatic Mass does not guarantee a person has a valid gift to heal) will heal anyone and everyone who comes to them.

God will heal the person if it benefits the Church or if it's His will for His reasons.

I do not know if you are posting as a joke or if you really do not know...

Jesus presence in all the Tabernacles through the world is what heals.

I can be healed in my living room by just asking God to heal me and if it is His will to heal me that way- He will do it.

If He heals by way of a Saint intersession or their relic, it is because God wills it in order to build His Church and show ppl His love and mercy and power and grace.

God is not a magic bullet or a Genie lamp we rub. He heals ppl for a purpose and what ever His purpose is for your life, you need to resolve to accept His will.

I have really bad OCD. No medication works, no therapy works and I'm on the verge of suicide. I pray to God every night and ask him for help but it sometimes feels like he wont answer me. I heard this holy healer would help me because it's gotten so bad that I want to kill myself. I have no feelings anymore. I don't feel anger, sadness or love..I'm a zombie is its too hard for me to handle anymore and was hoping this would help but I see everyone is saying it probably wont.

 

[benedictaoo]

I have really bad OCD. No medication works, no therapy works and I'm on the verge of suicide. I pray to God every night and ask him for help but it sometimes feels like he wont answer me. I heard this holy healer would help me because it's gotten so bad that I want to kill myself. I have no feelings anymore. I don't feel anger, sadness or love..I'm a zombie is its too hard for me to handle anymore and was hoping this would help but I see everyone is saying it probably wont.

It's not a matter of if it "works" or not. It is a matter of what is God's will for you?

There is no trail that He can not give us a way to endure it.

I know this is serious but treating God like a medicine or a cure is not healthy.

You need to draw close to Him, surrender all to Him, put your life in His hands, repent. <staff edit>

The healing may come or it may not but you have to love God for Him, not for what He can do.

Draw close to Him and put yourself in His hands and His providence will take care of you.

I will also pray for you.

 

[JourneyToPeace]

I have really bad OCD. No medication works, no therapy works and I'm on the verge of suicide. I pray to God every night and ask him for help but it sometimes feels like he wont answer me. I heard this holy healer would help me because it's gotten so bad that I want to kill myself. I have no feelings anymore. I don't feel anger, sadness or love..I'm a zombie is its too hard for me to handle anymore and was hoping this would help but I see everyone is saying it probably wont.

Praying for you.

Please reach out to a qualified counselor in your community. Even if you think it will not work or does not work, going this alone is not the answer. Speak with your priest or a priest about the feelings you've got going on. Many of us here are likely not qualified counselors and I'd be surprised if anyone here was a doctor -- either way, please stay connected with your community, and let people know what's going on. Reach out in person, offline, and ask for help and prayer and keep talking to others. I know this is very difficult, but you need others right now who can physically see you, and listen to you, and be a shoulder to lean on. People who know you, understand your diagnosis, and what you're dealing with. Okay?

You'll stay in my prayers.

And please do go to that Mass. Going to Mass and just spending the time in prayer and worship cannot hurt. God loves you.

 

[MoNiCa4316]

Nickie, I hope God heals you but remember that if He does not, that is not because He is not able to or wishes you anything bad, it's because He's allowing you to carry a cross to share in His own suffering. But have hope that He can heal you. Be like the man in the Gospels who was seeking a healing, and believed God can do it, and said to Jesus - if He wills it, it will be. Have faith that His will - whether to heal or not to heal - is always what is the best for us, in the long run, and for our salvation.

God bless

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

There was a priest in NY, Fr. Dennis Kelleher of the Marian Healing Ministry, who traveled around giving "healing Masses" in the 1980's and 90's. He has passed away now.

I attended one of his Masses and several of my family members did at different times. One of my nieces experienced an immediate healing; in several other cases family members recovered, but not immediately or dramatically.

One family member with a serious chronic illness said, "Sometimes the "healing" is the grace to accept the illness you have."

I remember that Fr. Kelleher said that one must never pray for one's own healing--that one must pray for others.

I felt an outpouring of the Holy Spirit, and it was a powerful emotional experience.

One man told me later that he had never been able to put up a Christmas tree since his son died during the Christmas season many years before. After attending the healing Mass he was able to put up a Christmas tree. That may not seem like much to some, but it was his first step towards closure in the face of overwhelming grief.

In the early Church, Masses weren't stiff and formal with language that was designed to confuse rather than communicate. Charismatic Masses are closer to the early Church than today's "Novus Ordo," which is closer than the "novus ordo" obviously will be in the future.

Amen.

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

Maybe the healing will be for issues other than what you wish for. maybe God will heal you from anger and/or frustration. Maybe God will touch places in your inner heart, that are such hurts, that you don't even realize that they exist.

Sometimes we ask for things, but we are unable to drink from the cup that is required.

Jesus sought for certain things, but conceded his will, to that of the Father.

Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done."