For the last three years I have been studying exclusively Daniels prophecies and some of the NW scriptures used to refute the practice of date setting. Using a Stong's Exhaustive Concordence I have discovered a very interesting overlooked aspect of the main verse used to refute the practice. Matt. 24:36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no no the angels of heaven, but my Father only." KJV The key word here is "knoweth". Upon researching this word I discovered that it is from the Greek "eido" "used only in certian past tenses." the definition goes on to explain that other uses of "knoweth" are borrowed from this original yet they are from different words meaning different senses. In other words this scripture could have easily been translated as "But of that day and hour hath no man known the day or the hour." Giving this scripture an entirely different meaning.
Other scriptures, as well, the support of, at least, looking and paying attentiion the signs and indications of that day and hour. God, in Amos promises to inform his prophets as to his actions, would he not also do this near the time of the end? What of Joel when he stated that he would pour out his spirit upon his followers and "old men will dream dreams and young men will see visions?" If we are to believe that God's promises are true would he not give us the means as to determine the "proximity" of that time so that we may better prepare us for that returm the closer it gets? Isn't that what he did with William Miller and the Millerite movement? Even though they wrongly determined the event, the event that was predicted happened and the time prophecy that was involved WAS COMPLETED as was foretold and revealed by William Miller. Can and will this happen again. I believe it will and I will go as far to say that I believe it HAS.
William Miller in his researching the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation and his thurough study of the Bible develop some simple rules that we as Adventist follow today in our daily studies and the first and foremost of these is that we are to let the Bible interpret itself. When there is a question, especially a hard question, we are to search the scriptures for the answer and not go to anyother source for these other sources outside the Bible many times prove to be faulty, nor matter the source. One thing that Miller did not include in has research study facts was this truth that has been overlooked by everyone it seems, Every time prophecy has a distinct start point and every time prophecy has a distinct end point. Knowing this, if we can determine a start point of a time prophecy the end of that prophecy can also be determined. This is a fact that cannot be disputed no matter how hard one tries. It's like say, "I'm going from point A to point B on an unobstructed road, I am the only one going and no one else will be on that road and it will take me this amount of time to get there." and someone saying "no, it won't happen." It will happen, and God has built the road and set the action in motion and nobody, not even Satan can stop it, no matter how hard he may try.
So now you ask, "what is this guy talking about?" Patience, I'm getting there. William Miller dissected the 2300 days (years) prophecy and correctly concluded that a major Biblical event was going to occur in 1843 or 1844. Believing it was the return of Christ he sounded the joyous news throughout the country. At the same time, across the oceans, others had come to the same conclusion independently of Miller. Research it for yourselves, it happened. God had given the message to many of his faithful, not just Miller, though Miller was credited with discovering the truth first. But, although the event was wrongly predicted, the time was not. This in essence was a "Time Setting" event. Do we now condemn William Miller and the others for "Time Setting", supposedly in disobedience to Jesus's assumed admonition against doing such a thing? Heaven forbid, for without this event we as SDA would not now exist and God's remnent church would still be scattered hither and yon.
We forget that Satan hates the idea that Jesus is returning soon and he would do all that he could to disuade us for studying and allowing the Holy Spirit in directing us to the truth of the prophecies. He has, and will, use well meaning Christian to misdirect Christ's church in to false belief and delude many into false speculation, without thurough study of the prophecies and history as well so that the faithful are discouraged and made to say, "the Lord is not near, he will not return in my time for I cannot determine the time of my Lord's return." Thus has been the reaction of mean in the past 150+ years of not only SDA but of others who seek the Lord as well. But we need not be discouraged because the Lord has given us all the knowledge we need and the wherewithal to use that knowledge.
Miller and those that supported him showed that the historicist view of prophecy was the correct way of interpreting prophetic events. But, when the Lord did not appear as expected those who ridiculed Miller turned from this form of exsigesis and turn instead to other means of prophetic interpretation, much to the delight of Satan. But we as SDA continue to hold to this form and correctly so. And now, I turn to history to explain further where I go with this.
History has showng us, through prophecy, who the woman is that sits on the beast in Revelation. It has also shown us who the false prophet shall be and the "lamb with two horns". We have however in correctly determined who the figures are in Daniel 10. In my studies and research I came across several books relating to the Crusades, the RCC and Islam. I know that today many are espousing that Islam is the Antichrist but we know this to be false, however, as with the USA, Islam has played a major role in the history of the world, not only in a religious sense but in a political sense as well. This being said, we must realize that it must play a part somewhere in bible prophecy. If we deny this concerning such a major force than we must also deny this concerning the USA. But we know this not to be the case, for when we look at current events we see more and more that the USA is becoming more and more that which is portrayed in Revelation. And as Islam came into existance before the USA it would seem fit that it would be mention before the USA. If you study the accounts of the Crusades and compare them to the events in Daniel ten you will find they match percisely. What is the significance of this? I now take you to Daniel 12 verses 11-12.
Remember that I stated "every time prophecy has a distinct start point and every time prohecy has a distinct end point."? The 2300 day prophecy has been completed and it is no longer relevent to today. But, when you look at Daniel 12:11-12 you find that there is a finality to this prophecy. At its conclusion all is said and done, when this prophecy concludes time will be no more. "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand and two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand and thirty days. But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest and stand in thy lot at the end of the days."
Notice that there are two events that have to happen before the time clock begins on this prophecy:
1. The daily Sacrifice must be taken away
2. The abomination that maketh desolation must be set up
As SDA we know that the daily sacrifice was spiritually taken away when Jesus was crucified on the cross. It was physically taken away in 70 AD when the Romans distroyed the Temple in Jerusalem. But what of the abomination that maketh desolate? We have been consistantly taught that this was represented by the Banners or Standards of the armies of Rome that were placed around Jerusalem in 70 AD. Ok so let's mark this as our start time for this prophecy.
Add 70 + 1335 (Daniel 12:12 the last time period mentioned)
= 1405 AD. Knowing that the Lord did not enter the sanctuary until 1848 how is it that he would have returned prior to that? He didn't, so the Standards could not have been the abomination mentioned in Daniel. Also, as the Lord has not yet returned in our time the last part of this prophecy still has to be somewhere in the future. So how do we determine when this will be. Is there still an event out there yet to be discovered or occur before we can make this determination?
Notice that all old testement prophecy was given to the Jews through Jewish prophets. These prophecies were mainly directed at the Jews, as adopted Jews they are also now meant for Christians. But still these are Jewish prophecies and must therefore be looked upon from a Jewish perspective. Being such we must take on the mindset of the Jew and ask the question "What in current history would a Jew consider an abomination?" Think about this as I continue.
The history of Islam is a violent and turbulent one. Their goal was and still is, to subjugate all under their rulership, forcing everyone to worship as they worship(ped) or die. They came in direct conflict with the Roman Church, who had the exact same goal. These two powers fought continuously throughout the years known as the Crusades with the Muslims besting the Catholics for the better part of the conflicts, in the end the Muslims gained ultimate control of Jerusalem and held that control until the middle part of the twentieth century. Everywhere that the Muslims went there was distruction, few of the countries that conquered ever recovered. They were laid waste, in most the desolation was complete, many today still suffer the consequences of their terror. They can rightfully be called "the desolaters".
Have you answered the question concerning the abomination yet?
In 688 AD the muslims in Jerusalem built upon the Holy Mount Of God, upon the place that once housed the Temple of God where the sacrifices were conducted, where the Jews worshipped the Most High, the Dome of the Rock. Consider, you are a Jew, is this not an abomination to you? We now have a viable starting point.
But now we have to consider, there are two end points also in the prophecy, each distinct from the other.
Verse 11 --- 1290 days (years)
Verse 12 --- 1335 days (years0
Each end point must have a distinct event that marks that end point.
Now it gets interesting
688 AD + 1290 = 1978
So what distinct event marks this end point?
In 1978 Pope John Paul II became Pope of the Catholic Church, through his direction and leadership he was instrumental in putting fire to and force to many of the Catholic goals. He was the most beloved and influencial Popes in history visiting were no other Pope had visited and assisting in political efforts that would have been considered unthinkable before the turn of the century. The Catholic Church, through his efforts is NOW poissed to regain its once lost granduer.
688 AD + 1335 = 2023
Is this the date in which our Lord will return? Should we ignore this year? Look around you. Have you been watching the news? Are you aware of the agenda of the United Nations and the World Council of Churches? All signs point to the Lord returning soon. Remember, Daniel 12 is the Last Time Prophecy, there are no others and it points to the last day. Here is one more point that I would like to make, perhaps it is only coencidence, but if it is it is a very striking coencidence.
688 AD + 1260 = 1948
Most who are familiar with history will recognize that date a significate for two reasons:
1. It was the year that the United Nations ratified its charter
2. It was the year in which the Nation of Isreal was recognized, first by the United States and then by most of the rest of the world, as a soveirgn nation and the Jews allowed to move back.
3. It was also the European Economic Community formed, later to be known as the European Union.
As I have stated before I have done an extensive amount of research on this. I have been sitting on this for almost two years. I feel that in itself has been too long and I feel compelled to at least present it to others for evaluation and consideration. If I am wrong then I ask for forgiveness in advance, but if I am correct in my assumption then we now, all of us, have a greater responsibility to get the message out. The time is near, we dare not delay.
May God bless and keep you all.
Other scriptures, as well, the support of, at least, looking and paying attentiion the signs and indications of that day and hour. God, in Amos promises to inform his prophets as to his actions, would he not also do this near the time of the end? What of Joel when he stated that he would pour out his spirit upon his followers and "old men will dream dreams and young men will see visions?" If we are to believe that God's promises are true would he not give us the means as to determine the "proximity" of that time so that we may better prepare us for that returm the closer it gets? Isn't that what he did with William Miller and the Millerite movement? Even though they wrongly determined the event, the event that was predicted happened and the time prophecy that was involved WAS COMPLETED as was foretold and revealed by William Miller. Can and will this happen again. I believe it will and I will go as far to say that I believe it HAS.
William Miller in his researching the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation and his thurough study of the Bible develop some simple rules that we as Adventist follow today in our daily studies and the first and foremost of these is that we are to let the Bible interpret itself. When there is a question, especially a hard question, we are to search the scriptures for the answer and not go to anyother source for these other sources outside the Bible many times prove to be faulty, nor matter the source. One thing that Miller did not include in has research study facts was this truth that has been overlooked by everyone it seems, Every time prophecy has a distinct start point and every time prophecy has a distinct end point. Knowing this, if we can determine a start point of a time prophecy the end of that prophecy can also be determined. This is a fact that cannot be disputed no matter how hard one tries. It's like say, "I'm going from point A to point B on an unobstructed road, I am the only one going and no one else will be on that road and it will take me this amount of time to get there." and someone saying "no, it won't happen." It will happen, and God has built the road and set the action in motion and nobody, not even Satan can stop it, no matter how hard he may try.
So now you ask, "what is this guy talking about?" Patience, I'm getting there. William Miller dissected the 2300 days (years) prophecy and correctly concluded that a major Biblical event was going to occur in 1843 or 1844. Believing it was the return of Christ he sounded the joyous news throughout the country. At the same time, across the oceans, others had come to the same conclusion independently of Miller. Research it for yourselves, it happened. God had given the message to many of his faithful, not just Miller, though Miller was credited with discovering the truth first. But, although the event was wrongly predicted, the time was not. This in essence was a "Time Setting" event. Do we now condemn William Miller and the others for "Time Setting", supposedly in disobedience to Jesus's assumed admonition against doing such a thing? Heaven forbid, for without this event we as SDA would not now exist and God's remnent church would still be scattered hither and yon.
We forget that Satan hates the idea that Jesus is returning soon and he would do all that he could to disuade us for studying and allowing the Holy Spirit in directing us to the truth of the prophecies. He has, and will, use well meaning Christian to misdirect Christ's church in to false belief and delude many into false speculation, without thurough study of the prophecies and history as well so that the faithful are discouraged and made to say, "the Lord is not near, he will not return in my time for I cannot determine the time of my Lord's return." Thus has been the reaction of mean in the past 150+ years of not only SDA but of others who seek the Lord as well. But we need not be discouraged because the Lord has given us all the knowledge we need and the wherewithal to use that knowledge.
Miller and those that supported him showed that the historicist view of prophecy was the correct way of interpreting prophetic events. But, when the Lord did not appear as expected those who ridiculed Miller turned from this form of exsigesis and turn instead to other means of prophetic interpretation, much to the delight of Satan. But we as SDA continue to hold to this form and correctly so. And now, I turn to history to explain further where I go with this.
History has showng us, through prophecy, who the woman is that sits on the beast in Revelation. It has also shown us who the false prophet shall be and the "lamb with two horns". We have however in correctly determined who the figures are in Daniel 10. In my studies and research I came across several books relating to the Crusades, the RCC and Islam. I know that today many are espousing that Islam is the Antichrist but we know this to be false, however, as with the USA, Islam has played a major role in the history of the world, not only in a religious sense but in a political sense as well. This being said, we must realize that it must play a part somewhere in bible prophecy. If we deny this concerning such a major force than we must also deny this concerning the USA. But we know this not to be the case, for when we look at current events we see more and more that the USA is becoming more and more that which is portrayed in Revelation. And as Islam came into existance before the USA it would seem fit that it would be mention before the USA. If you study the accounts of the Crusades and compare them to the events in Daniel ten you will find they match percisely. What is the significance of this? I now take you to Daniel 12 verses 11-12.
Remember that I stated "every time prophecy has a distinct start point and every time prohecy has a distinct end point."? The 2300 day prophecy has been completed and it is no longer relevent to today. But, when you look at Daniel 12:11-12 you find that there is a finality to this prophecy. At its conclusion all is said and done, when this prophecy concludes time will be no more. "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand and two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand and thirty days. But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest and stand in thy lot at the end of the days."
Notice that there are two events that have to happen before the time clock begins on this prophecy:
1. The daily Sacrifice must be taken away
2. The abomination that maketh desolation must be set up
As SDA we know that the daily sacrifice was spiritually taken away when Jesus was crucified on the cross. It was physically taken away in 70 AD when the Romans distroyed the Temple in Jerusalem. But what of the abomination that maketh desolate? We have been consistantly taught that this was represented by the Banners or Standards of the armies of Rome that were placed around Jerusalem in 70 AD. Ok so let's mark this as our start time for this prophecy.
Add 70 + 1335 (Daniel 12:12 the last time period mentioned)
= 1405 AD. Knowing that the Lord did not enter the sanctuary until 1848 how is it that he would have returned prior to that? He didn't, so the Standards could not have been the abomination mentioned in Daniel. Also, as the Lord has not yet returned in our time the last part of this prophecy still has to be somewhere in the future. So how do we determine when this will be. Is there still an event out there yet to be discovered or occur before we can make this determination?
Notice that all old testement prophecy was given to the Jews through Jewish prophets. These prophecies were mainly directed at the Jews, as adopted Jews they are also now meant for Christians. But still these are Jewish prophecies and must therefore be looked upon from a Jewish perspective. Being such we must take on the mindset of the Jew and ask the question "What in current history would a Jew consider an abomination?" Think about this as I continue.
The history of Islam is a violent and turbulent one. Their goal was and still is, to subjugate all under their rulership, forcing everyone to worship as they worship(ped) or die. They came in direct conflict with the Roman Church, who had the exact same goal. These two powers fought continuously throughout the years known as the Crusades with the Muslims besting the Catholics for the better part of the conflicts, in the end the Muslims gained ultimate control of Jerusalem and held that control until the middle part of the twentieth century. Everywhere that the Muslims went there was distruction, few of the countries that conquered ever recovered. They were laid waste, in most the desolation was complete, many today still suffer the consequences of their terror. They can rightfully be called "the desolaters".
Have you answered the question concerning the abomination yet?
In 688 AD the muslims in Jerusalem built upon the Holy Mount Of God, upon the place that once housed the Temple of God where the sacrifices were conducted, where the Jews worshipped the Most High, the Dome of the Rock. Consider, you are a Jew, is this not an abomination to you? We now have a viable starting point.
But now we have to consider, there are two end points also in the prophecy, each distinct from the other.
Verse 11 --- 1290 days (years)
Verse 12 --- 1335 days (years0
Each end point must have a distinct event that marks that end point.
Now it gets interesting
688 AD + 1290 = 1978
So what distinct event marks this end point?
In 1978 Pope John Paul II became Pope of the Catholic Church, through his direction and leadership he was instrumental in putting fire to and force to many of the Catholic goals. He was the most beloved and influencial Popes in history visiting were no other Pope had visited and assisting in political efforts that would have been considered unthinkable before the turn of the century. The Catholic Church, through his efforts is NOW poissed to regain its once lost granduer.
688 AD + 1335 = 2023
Is this the date in which our Lord will return? Should we ignore this year? Look around you. Have you been watching the news? Are you aware of the agenda of the United Nations and the World Council of Churches? All signs point to the Lord returning soon. Remember, Daniel 12 is the Last Time Prophecy, there are no others and it points to the last day. Here is one more point that I would like to make, perhaps it is only coencidence, but if it is it is a very striking coencidence.
688 AD + 1260 = 1948
Most who are familiar with history will recognize that date a significate for two reasons:
1. It was the year that the United Nations ratified its charter
2. It was the year in which the Nation of Isreal was recognized, first by the United States and then by most of the rest of the world, as a soveirgn nation and the Jews allowed to move back.
3. It was also the European Economic Community formed, later to be known as the European Union.
As I have stated before I have done an extensive amount of research on this. I have been sitting on this for almost two years. I feel that in itself has been too long and I feel compelled to at least present it to others for evaluation and consideration. If I am wrong then I ask for forgiveness in advance, but if I am correct in my assumption then we now, all of us, have a greater responsibility to get the message out. The time is near, we dare not delay.
May God bless and keep you all.
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