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Those baskets of food scraps!
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<blockquote data-quote="eider" data-source="post: 71843247" data-attributes="member: 399580"><p>I'm talking about the fact that Matthew did not witness this event, but copied the report, rather badly, with ommissions and additions to suit. </p><p> </p><p>But now that you have quoted Mark, that's great:-</p><p>The scraps were real. So were the baskets. Modern day netters use trays and baskets to keep tri-nets, gill-nets, etc in because they can be moved around and stored without tangling.</p><p> </p><p>But to 'hand' several nets into a single pile is safe as long as you don't try to move it anywhere. So the presence of so many baskets makes good sense because these had a variety of uses.</p><p> </p><p>Now, how do you perceive that those scraps, collected in those baskets, would not have been scattered as bait? </p><p> </p><p>In Mark 8 surely Jesus is saying, quite simply, not to trust the priesthood nor Antipas (their leaven is like poison?) , but to believe their own eyes and have faith in him?</p><p> </p><p>Mark</p><p>{8:14}. Now [the disciples] had forgotten to take bread, neither had they in the ship with them more than one loaf {8:15} And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and [of] the leaven of Herod. {8:16} And they reasoned among themselves, saying, [It is] because we have no bread. {8:17} And when Jesus knew [it,] he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened? {8:18} Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember? {8:19} When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve. {8:20} And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? And they said, Seven. {8:21} And he said unto them, How</p><p></p><p>is it that ye do not understand?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eider, post: 71843247, member: 399580"] I'm talking about the fact that Matthew did not witness this event, but copied the report, rather badly, with ommissions and additions to suit. But now that you have quoted Mark, that's great:- The scraps were real. So were the baskets. Modern day netters use trays and baskets to keep tri-nets, gill-nets, etc in because they can be moved around and stored without tangling. But to 'hand' several nets into a single pile is safe as long as you don't try to move it anywhere. So the presence of so many baskets makes good sense because these had a variety of uses. Now, how do you perceive that those scraps, collected in those baskets, would not have been scattered as bait? In Mark 8 surely Jesus is saying, quite simply, not to trust the priesthood nor Antipas (their leaven is like poison?) , but to believe their own eyes and have faith in him? Mark {8:14}. Now [the disciples] had forgotten to take bread, neither had they in the ship with them more than one loaf {8:15} And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and [of] the leaven of Herod. {8:16} And they reasoned among themselves, saying, [It is] because we have no bread. {8:17} And when Jesus knew [it,] he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened? {8:18} Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember? {8:19} When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve. {8:20} And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? And they said, Seven. {8:21} And he said unto them, How is it that ye do not understand? [/QUOTE]
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