THIS we should NOT forget!

[Henaynei]

Coming Sunday 4/18, is the Shoah. As we pause for Zakhron, let us also remember this:
This is from an Israeli woman.

I am not the least afraid to go any place,
By bus or to a mall.
[size=+0]I didn't change or stop doing anything
I used to do before this mess began !
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[size=+0]People tend to forget that twice the casualties
From terror get killed on the roads !
[/size][size=+0]More people still die
From heart attack, cancer,
[/size]And other things,
They just don't show them on TV.

[size=+0]Don't misunderstand me,
There is a war going on,
It's not pleasant, [/size]
But, lets face it:
WE HAVE NEVER BEEN BETTER OFF !! !!

[size=+0]It's only TV and the media
That make people think
That the end of the world is coming. [/size]

[size=+0]Only 60 years ago,
They were leading Jews to their death
Like sheep to the slaughter! [/size]
No Country, No Army. 55 years ago ! !

[size=+0]Seven Arab countries declared war
On the small Jewish State,
Only a few hours old ! ! [/size]
[size=+0]We were then 650,000 Jews!
Against the rest of the Arab world !
[/size][size=+0]No IDF [Israel Defense Force].
No mighty Air Force,
[/size]Just tough people
With nowhere to go.

[size=+0]Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt,
Libya, Saudi Arabia, attacked all at once.
[/size][size=+0]The country the UN "gave us"
Was 65% desert.
[/size][size=+0]The country started from scratch !
35 years ago ! ! We fought
The three strongest armies in the Middle East,
[/size]And wiped them out in six days.

[size=+0]We fought against
Different coalitions of Arab countries,
With modern armies, [/size]
And masses of Soviet Russian weapons,
And we still won ! ! !

[size=+0]We have today
A country,
An army, [/size]
A strong Air Force,
A Hi-Tech Economy, exporting millions.
Intel - Microsoft - IBM develop their stuff here.

[size=+0]Our doctors win world prizes
For medical developments.
[/size][size=+0]We made the desert flourish,
Selling oranges and vegetables to the world.
[/size]
[size=+0]Israel has sent its own satellite into Space ! !
Three satellites all together ! !
[/size][size=+0]We sit proudly,
With the US, with 250 million people,
[/size]With Russia, with 200 million people,
With China, with 1.1 billion people,
With the Europeans -- France, England, Germany,
with 350 million people,
The only countries in the world
To shoot something into space ! !

[size=+0]Israel is today
In the world nuclear power family
With the US, Russia, China, India, France, and England. [/size]
[ We don't admit it, but every one knows... ]

[size=+0]To think that only 60 years ago,
We were led,
Shameful, [/size]
With no hope,
To our death !!
[size=+0]We crawled out of the burning ashes of Europe,
We won our wars here with less than nothing in our hands,
We built an "empire" out of nothing. [/size]
[size=+0]Who the hell is Mr. Arafat
To make me Scared ?
To make me be Terrified ? [/size]

You make me laugh !

[size=+0]Passover was celebrated;
Let's not forget what the story is all about.
We overcame Pharaoh, [/size]
We overcame the Greeks,
We overcame the Romans,
We overcame the Inquisition in Spain,
We overcame the Pogroms in Russia,
We overcame Hitler,
We overcame the Germans,
We overcame the Holocaust,
We overcame the armies of the seven Arab countries,
We overcame Saddam.

[size=+0]Take it easy, folks,
We will overcome
The present enemies too. [/size]

[size=+0]No matter Which part of human history you try !
Think of it, For us,
The Jewish people, [/size]
Our situation has never been better ! ! !

[size=+0]So, Let's Lift our Heads High,
Let's Remember: [/size]
[size=+0]Any nation or culture
That tried to mess around with us
Was destroyed - while we kept going ! ! ! [/size]
[size=+0]Egypt ?
Anyone know where their empire disappeared to ?
[/size][size=+0]The Greeks ?
Alexander of Macedonia ?
The Romans ?
[/size]Does anyone today speak Latin ?
The Third Reich ?
Anyone heard any news about it lately?

[size=+0]And look at us,
The Nation from the Bible,
From Slavery in Egypt, [/size]
We are still here,
Speaking the same language !!
Right here, right now.

[size=+0]The Arabs don't know it yet,
But, they will learn that there is one God.
[/size][size=+0]As long as we keep our identity,
We are eternal.
[/size][size=+0]So, sorry for not worrying,
Not *****ing,
[/size]Not crying,
Not being scared.

Things are O.K. here.
They surely can be better,
But still:
[size=+0]Don't fall for the media junk,
They won't tell you
That there are [/size]
Festivals going on,
That people keep on living,
That people are going out,
That people are seeing friends.

[size=+0]Yes, our morale is low, So what ?
[/size][size=+0]It's only because we weep for our dead
While they enjoy the blood.
[/size]This is the same reason why,
We will win, after all.


The Truth is the best means to counter misinformation.

 

[Existential1]

"The Truth is the best means to counter misinformation."
The truth of the horror and injustice visited upon those of Jewish faith, must never be forgotten, nor ever minimised.
Not everything that you say is true. We all of us, not just those of Jewish faith, not just the inhabitants of Israel, are in this together. We live in a shared global setting, where if some are insistent on winning, in any terms, then others must lose, which will prove unacceptable to them.
There is a danger that Zionism displaces Judaism: a danger that some Israelies will cast as enemies, those who only call on them to share.
The true resource of the Jewish people, which has seen them outlast their oppressors, is their God, and their faith in that God.
Where the Jewish people come to place their faith in Zion, and not trully in God: then they might, God forbid, once again lose Israel.
Where they retain their true foundation, in their God, in their faith in that God: and thereby contribute to a human stewardship of our global world, that is rooted in truth serving all; then their reward should be to remain in the land of their forefathers.

 

[Sephania]

Ex, that will not happen, HaShem has brought them back , they will not be leaving again, unless you don't believe his word?

Zionism is what will keep them fighting for what is rightfully theirs, and will allow the Blessed one to show His might as he has done in the past with her. The time will come when they all will turn to Him, from that one place that he has gathered them , as promised,to.

Fighting for the land that G-d has given you is the most noblest thing one can do as a country.

Did not the settlers do the same in defending America against it's own Mother country? How much more than to have your deed recorded in the Holy Word of the L-RD?

 

[Sephania]

Let's also pray that many that honor that day so soon after pesach will come to know the one who laid His life down for that same people of that same land 2000 years ago with all the love anyone fighting for his brethern could ever have. ANd may the world learn that you can't touch the apple of G-ds eye and win.

 

[P_G]

And here I got in a bit of trouble last night on my nightly (5 nights a week) web-cast.

And how come? Because I made the bold statement that the "palestinian" (FYI there is not a country nor was there ever a country called Palestine) homicide bombers are dogs.

Yes some nice PC type cyber congregants just stormed out informing me that I was terrible.

Let me rephrase it then publicly
The "palestinian" homicide bombers and insurgents are not fit to be dogs they are swine waste.


There I hope that clears up my feelings for those who kill women and children with bomb belts.


And yes I know Jesus loves them and he does and he wants them to KNOCK IT OFF!


blessings

Pastor George

 

[Existential1]

When you write G-d: would that mean that my writing in full would offend you; or is that okay because I am not formally Jewish?
I am schizoid about Israel. There is nothing in Jewish understanding or life, that I cannot embrace: the 23rd Psalm has always been my ontological haiku; I spent a large part of my younger life exploring the holocaust, almost in a stunned disbelief as to its reality. I think my soul has always identified with the Jew of the diaspora.
Israel, the political reality post 1947, gives me real problems. The international community was wrong to take colonial disposal of Palestine, and award it in some measure to the Jewish people. The Jewish people were wrong, in my opinion, to identify their presence with Zionism. The subsequent treatment of the Palestinians, crucially by an American dispora funded, and sometimes American taxpayer funded Israel, has been shameful: and while this has been on smaller scale, and different in detail; it is generically a cousin of the Holocaust.
Now the whole region, and perhaps the whole world, must pay the price for the Zionist dream.
I respect that your communion and Covenant, must see you place value on that dream, where what I baulk at, you must view as a necessary price.
But I would ask you to open yourself to the enormity of difficulty we collectively face: where some part of the world must line up behind this dream, as justifable; and some other part, perhaps currently less powerful, if not less numerous, must declare that no dream, of any people, must allow the disadvantage of another, much less endanger the whole world.
I respect your words, I am moved by your faith: but, in contemplating what is current in Israel Palestine; I encounter intractable difficulty, which I do not think it right should always endure.
Just what do we do for the best?

 

[Henaynei]

I would like to remind all posters that the forum rules of this, and onther faith community forums on CF, state that those who are not members of that specific community may not post debate in the threads??


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b'Shalom
Henaynei

 

[Existential1]

My apologies for my ignorance of this rule.

 

[Henaynei]

My apologies for my ignorance of this rule.

Dear Existential1,

Your apology is happily accepted. We all have been newbies on CF and have all had to learn the "ropes." You will find similar rules on all or most of the "faith" forums. I have found it easist to read their rules before trying to post in those forums - LOL But I had to learn the hard way!!!

May G-d bless you greatly for your gentle response

Please feel invited to ask questions and to participate in fellowship

 

[brentsbaby612]

ANd may the world learn that you can't touch the apple of G-ds eye and win.

Alleluia to that!!
Thanks for the starter post Henny!(can I call you Henny?)
It was very inspiring!

 

[Henaynei]

can I call you Henny?

Why not, almost everyone does eventually

 

[Trench777]

Henaynei,

I am inspired and awed by your post!!! Absolutely inspirational. It makes my blood pump and my heart rise in hope and love for all my Jewish brothers and sister in Israel. I am HONORED and humbled by being granted the grace to be grafted into the tree of such a noble people.

G-D bless you!!. G-D bless Israel!!

May G-D's Word be a light to your path and a lamp to your feet.

A humble servant,

T777

 

[ShirChadash]

I agree with the others -- that is just an awesome post! It brought tears to my eyes, it was so inspiring... and I have been trying to figure out how to put the entire piece in my sig line *sigh* I can't decide which portion I like best of all so I could narrow it down... it's all SO good!

 

[ShirChadash]

Hey, there we go... how's this?










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[Plan 9]

I love your new sig, Zemmy!

 

[Henaynei]

LOL - That's great Zemi - I am sure the woman who wrote it would be honored!

 

[jeshohaia]

Woot! That was so inspiring! Thanks!