This should unite ProLife AND ProChoice

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US States Fail to Protect Children’s Rights

(New York) – United States state laws overwhelmingly fail to meet international child rights standards, with the vast majority failing to protect children from child marriage, hazardous child labor, extreme prison sentences, and violent treatment, Human Rights Watch said today. Human Rights Watch gave 20 states a failing “F” grade, and 26 a “D.” Not a single state received a “B” or an “A.” New Jersey, Ohio, Iowa, and Minnesota were the only states to receive a “C” grade.

A new Human Rights Watch interactive scorecard assessed 12 specific state laws in all 50 states against standards set by the Convention on the Rights of the Child, the primary international treaty on the rights of children. The laws address four issues: child marriage, corporal punishment, child labor, and juvenile justice. The United States is the only country that has failed to ratify the Convention, ratified by 196 countries.

The lack of protection and an upholding of rights of BORN, sentient children feels like it should be disconcerting to EVERYONE.

 

[HTacianas]

US States Fail to Protect Children’s Rights


The lack of protection and an upholding of rights of BORN, sentient children feels like it should be disconcerting to EVERYONE.

Hopefully the United States will never ratify it. If someone doesn't like State law they can simply notify their State Legislature.

 

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Hopefully the United States will never ratify it. If someone doesn't like State law they can simply notify their State Legislature.

Why not?

 

[rambot]

Hopefully the United States will never ratify it. If someone doesn't like State law they can simply notify their State Legislature.

What a fascinating response!

 

[rambot]

I'll withhold my judgement on prolife folks until I hear a few more responses about this state of affairs. Maybe they DO care about children.

 

[HTacianas]

Why not?

Because it would surrender the sovereignty of the States to a foreign power.

 

[rambot]

Because it would surrender the sovereignty of the States to a foreign power.

So doing the right thing to protect your children is actually irrelevant?

I'm not even talking about signing onto some treaty that has no teeth anyways, I'm talking about the damning assessment of the US' treatment of children. Are you not concerned about it?

 

[HTacianas]

So doing the right thing to protect your children is actually irrelevant?

I'm not even talking about signing onto some treaty that has no teeth anyways, I'm talking about the damning assessment of the US' treatment of children. Are you not concerned about it?

Actually no. I'm not concerned about it. It's Human Rights Watch creating a clickbait headline and a lot of half-truths to get attention. If they were in fact concerned about children they would spend their time in Vietnam or Bangladesh or maybe in the Nike and Apple factories in China where children are actually being exploited and abused.

 

[rambot]

Actually no. I'm not concerned about it. It's Human Rights Watch creating a clickbait headline and a lot of half-truths to get attention. If they were in fact concerned about children they would spend their time in Vietnam or Bangladesh or maybe in the Nike and Apple factories in China where children are actually being exploited and abused.

You can click all the way to the study..

It's too bad you are not concerned about American children though. And I'm sure you're equally ambivalent to the shocking statistics of child poverty in the richest country in the world....I mean, not shocked enough to advocate for tax reform to support the poor. Because why?
Why care about born children?

Ultimately though, what bums me out, is that the poster didn't even bother to read the report to see HOW the US is failing children....THAT is how little they care; can't even spend 5 minutes reading to see if MAAAYBE US states ARE not doing right by their children.

I dunno....I guess it seems bananas to ME that 15 year olds can marry. Maybe I'm Mr Insano.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Child trafficking under Biden.

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Child labor under Biden.

Labor department uncovers kids working at Minnesota meat-packing plants

Investigators say they found more than 30 teenagers working overnight shifts. Their jobs included cleaning dangerous equipment. One 13-year-old suffered chemical burns.

www.cbsnews.com

You're saying there should be laws to protect children and their well being and you are also concerned about the results of the publication in the OP?

 

[Ana the Ist]

You can click all the way to the study..

It's too bad you are not concerned about American children though. And I'm sure you're equally ambivalent to the shocking statistics of child poverty in the richest country in the world....I mean, not shocked enough to advocate for tax reform to support the poor. Because why?
Why care about born children?

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Ultimately though, what bums me out, is that the poster didn't even bother to read the report to see HOW the US is failing children....THAT is how little they care; can't even spend 5 minutes reading to see if MAAAYBE US states ARE not doing right by their children.

I dunno....I guess it seems bananas to ME that 15 year olds can marry. Maybe I'm Mr Insano.

Who is Dave Barnhart? Because if he thinks that's a good point....yeesh.

One thing the unborn won't do for your advocacy....vote.

Everyone else he listed? They'll at least publicly thank you.

 

[Ana the Ist]

You're saying there should be laws to protect children and their well being and you are also concerned about the results of the publication in the OP?

I'm saying there are laws....they exist now.

Unfortunately Biden decided not to enforce them.

 

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I'm saying there are laws....they exist now.

Unfortunately Biden decided not to enforce them.

If those laws existed, the study above would not show the US to be failing US children so wholistically

Who is Dave Barnhart? Because if he thinks that's a good point....yeesh.

One thing the unborn won't do for your advocacy....vote.

Everyone else he listed? They'll at least publicly thank you.

Really? That's your counter argument?

Not very familiar with scripture I'll suppose.

 

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I'm saying there are laws....they exist now.

Unfortunately Biden decided not to enforce them.

Which specific laws are Biden not enforcing that meant that, previous to their enforcement there was NO child labour, but now that Biden isn't enforcing them, there IS child labour?
I'm sure you've shared them a few times already.

Actually, since it has exactly nothing to do with the OP and thread so truly, maybe don't bother because I won't address it.

 

[Nithavela]

I'll withhold my judgement on prolife folks until I hear a few more responses about this state of affairs. Maybe they DO care about children.

A lot of them probably do, just like a lot of pro choice people only want to use abortions as contraception.

Don't expect them to out themselves on this thread, though.

 

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A lot of them probably do, just like a lot of pro choice people only want to use abortions as contraception.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "only" there since that is the sole purpose of abortion. I'm guessing EVERYONE who choses to get an abortion only uses it for contraception....not some kinda religious blood rite or anything.

Don't expect them to out themselves on this thread, though.

Don't expect a person to say "Yeah wow. There are some state laws that are messed up and don't do much to protect children"?

That seems like it would be taxing for a person to agree with?

 

[Nithavela]

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "only" there since that is the sole purpose of abortion. I'm guessing EVERYONE who choses to get an abortion only uses it for contraception....not some kinda religious blood rite or anything.

I mean in contrast to, say, only for medical emergencies or rape.

Don't expect a person to say "Yeah wow. There are some state laws that are messed up and don't do much to protect children"?

That seems like it would be taxing for a person to agree with?

I don't really expect anyone from the pro life side to post that.

 

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I mean in contrast to, say, only for medical emergencies or rape.

Ahhh....I see.

I don't really expect anyone from the pro life side to post that.

I know. Me too. But I don't understand WHY.

I posted in, as the title suggests, in the HOPES that MAYBE there is common ground between the two camps, but if the prolife side has interest in the well being and protection afforded to children, you'd think this would be a very simple, 4 inch putt.

 

[Goonie]

Child labor under Biden.

Labor department uncovers kids working at Minnesota meat-packing plants

Investigators say they found more than 30 teenagers working overnight shifts. Their jobs included cleaning dangerous equipment. One 13-year-old suffered chemical burns.

www.cbsnews.com

‘It’s just crazy’: Republicans attack US child labor laws as violations rise. Child labor being legislated by republicans, giving immunity from damages if children are injured or killed in the workplace.