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This really bugs me!

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Future Preacher

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,488644,00.html

Both the clinic and the girl should have files charged against them! She went to the clinic to have an abortion! Why on earth is she filing a lawsuit against the clinic?! She murdered her own baby by going there in the first place!

What the clinic did disgusts me. I actually cried when I was reading this article. Both parties are wrong in this case and will be judged someday when they meet God. Lord forgive me, but I'm just so angry about this! It only fires me up more about the millions of babies that are aborted each year, and the fact that our new president is giving federal money to foreign countries to perform abortions!

I don't mean to stir up any debate, but abortion really bothers me. Murder, plain and simple. Thanks for listening to me vent, I just had to after reading this article.
 

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I agree fully. However, if the girl is repentant, we must show some grace. As far as the doc, words fail me.

Speaking of abortion, I read the article below a few years ago and it really showed me how cold these docs become. Beware, it will make you sick.

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/nov/29/nation/na-abortion29
 
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According to the accounts I read, when she saw the child living, she was no longer able to accept what she was doing. In a just world, she would still face the law, but she can be forgiven.

This event just cements what I've been growing to understand for a long time now. There's no good faith debate over abortion. There's no justification for holding a pro-abortion position. It's not something we can just agree to disagree on. If you can look at this and accept it, you're just deranged. If you can condemn this but somehow justify doing the same thing minutes before, as if somehow passing out of the uterus makes an ounce of difference, you're willfully blinding yourself.

The abortion debate is no different than trying to have a civil discussion about the pros and cons of the holocaust. The entire notion is disgusting.
 
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According to the accounts I read, when she saw the child living, she was no longer able to accept what she was doing. In a just world, she would still face the law, but she can be forgiven.

This event just cements what I've been growing to understand for a long time now. There's no good faith debate over abortion. There's no justification for holding a pro-abortion position. It's not something we can just agree to disagree on. If you can look at this and accept it, you're just deranged. If you can condemn this but somehow justify doing the same thing minutes before, as if somehow passing out of the uterus makes an ounce of difference, you're willfully blinding yourself.

The abortion debate is no different than trying to have a civil discussion about the pros and cons of the holocaust. The entire notion is disgusting.

:amen:
 
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Is murder even forgivable? wouldnt God have a hard time NOT throwing a murderer into Hell?

I can understand us having to forgive, cuz weve done bad things.... but what about god? would he be able to forgive murder?
Moses, David, Paul?
 
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What she did was wrong, but what's happened has happened. I'd rather pray for the young lady, and pray for the soul of those who work in the abortion industry than waste my energy getting mad at something that is from satan, and something I can't change, but God can.
 
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Agreed HumbleMan. The best we can do is pray for them to see the error of their position, and that this curse will be removed from our land. To expect it to disappear overnight is unrealistic....those of faith must be willing to stand in defense of our beliefs on this matter.

As to whether or not murderers can be forgiven.... If someone who has committed murder is truly repentant before God for his actions, why wouldn't it be forgivable? To say otherwise would be to put a limit on the Father, and on grace. God is infinitely holy, yes, but he is also infinitely merciful if we seek for that mercy.
 
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Agreed HumbleMan. The best we can do is pray for them to see the error of their position, and that this curse will be removed from our land. To expect it to disappear overnight is unrealistic....those of faith must be willing to stand in defense of our beliefs on this matter.

As to whether or not murderers can be forgiven.... If someone who has committed murder is truly repentant before God for his actions, why wouldn't it be forgivable? To say otherwise would be to put a limit on the Father, and on grace. God is infinitely holy, yes, but he is also infinitely merciful if we seek for that mercy.

Agreed. It's gonna take a lot of prayer, time and patience. :groupray:
 
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