some "problems" aren't. Many "problems" are just pretexts for politicians to pontificateconservative analyses use whatever they can find to object to doing anything about problems...do nothing.
I think you're giving the left way too much credit for strategic thinking about crafting an equivocal slogan.
1. Sweet . Get them fired for negligence then.
2. Because in competently executing proper and reasonable policies and enforcing the control contiuum, less people would unjustly die.
This ridiculous hyperbole of "not handling things perfectly" is useless.
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Did you see the chart? I don't need to answer your questions. Its in the chart.Then you have no police.
What's a reasonable margin of error then? At least in regards to shootings....how many "bad shootings" are an acceptable number in a police force of hundreds of thousands amongst 320+ million people who could be armed at any time?
some "problems" aren't. Many "problems" are just pretexts for politicians to pontificate.
I know it may feel that way but it isn't to thousands and thousands of people.That's rather oversimplified.
Did you see the chart? I don't need to answer your questions. Its in the chart.
It's not a matter of "how many". It's a matter of did they follow the use of force model above.
Like how you don't (seem to) care about millions of small business owners crushed by COVID lockdowns ?It is VERY clearly that it is not a problem if it doesn't effect you (the communal you). It's a consist and very sad theme I see.
1. Sweet . Get them fired for negligence then.
2. Because in competently executing proper and reasonable policies and enforcing the control contiuum, less people would unjustly die.
This ridiculous hyperbole of "not handling things perfectly" is useless.
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Except I'm glad the Biden government is spending 350 billionish for small business.Like how you don't (seem to) care about millions of small business owners crushed by COVID lockdowns ?
You're right. The vast amount of good cops won't be affected by this. It's the behaviours of the bad cops that will receive the consequences. And I think that's good.The thing is police are well aware of your nice chart. And the VAST OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of them follow it. Just how many encounters are found to have had inappropriate use of the force continuum? Whats the percentage? Less people would die if officers used the continuum. That's true. But just how possible is it and how realistic is it to expect fewer in a profession like police work and how many fewer? I think you need a bench mark. How many are you willing to accept as a reasonable expectation of human behavior in a violent encounter? 0%? 1%? What would a realistic and reasonable percentage be? And how does that compare to what it is now?
You're right. The vast amount of good cops won't be affected by this. It's the behaviours of the bad cops that will receive the consequences. And I think that's good.
You're right. The vast amount of good cops won't be affected by this. It's the behaviours of the bad cops that will receive the consequences. And I think that's good.
I'll catch you on one thing.No, good cops will suffer. Because once you remove the immunity you open the flood gates for suing cops because you believe your rights have been violated. And a jury could feel sorry for you even though the cop didn't really violate your rights or do anything wrong and give you money. You will be able to sue a cop and they will have to spend a lot of money to defend themselves against frivolous suits.
No, good cops will suffer. Because once you remove the immunity you open the flood gates for suing cops because you believe your rights have been violated. And a jury could feel sorry for you even though the cop didn't really violate your rights or do anything wrong and give you money. You will be able to sue a cop and they will have to spend a lot of money to defend themselves against frivolous suits.
I agree. Every cop makes mistakes. But not every mistake a cop makes ends with death or bodily injury. There are excusable mistakes and there inexcusable mistakesEvery cop makes mistakes.
It's not a job one can do perfectly.
Taking away their only protection from legal retaliation is wrong given what they're asked to do.
I agree. Every cop makes mistakes. But not every mistake a cop makes ends with death or bodily injury. There are excusable mistakes and there inexcusable mistakes.
I can't think of other jobs where you can kill people "by mistake" and gets met with a giant shrug. Frankly I can't think of any circumstance where you kill someone by mistake and literally nothing happens.
[gestures broadly to the incidents that sparked protests over summer 2020]Start with these....Give an example of an "inexcusable mistake"?
At some point you have to accept that better IS possible.At some point you have to accept a perfect police force isn't possible.
ER Surgeons....really? Thta's funny because I know doctors pay ridiculous fees for malpractice insurance. And while I thought of soldier, I meant (though didn't express) more of the day to day work in society; not in warfare.Ummm...soldiers, ER surgeons....
I'm not looking for perfect. I'm looking for a police force that doesn't instinctively cover for bad behavior. IF these officers truly are rotten apples, get rid of them, don't protect them.Give an example of an "inexcusable mistake"?
At some point you have to accept a perfect police force isn't possible.
If somebody dies on an operating table most hospitals hold an internal investigation to determine what happened and if the actions of the doctor had anything to do with it. Any death involving a member of the military is investigated to make sure it wasn't murder.Ummm...soldiers, ER surgeons....
I'm not looking for perfect. I'm looking for a police force that doesn't instinctively cover for bad behavior. IF these officers truly are rotten apples, get rid of them, don't protect them.
If somebody dies on an operating table most hospitals hold an internal investigation to determine what happened and if the actions of the doctor had anything to do with it. Any death involving a member of the military is investigated to make sure it wasn't murder.
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