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This is Why Homosexuality is Wrong. . .

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And the source of your statistics have been shown to be under the control of liberal homosexual supporting organizations. Does the pot only accept it's own rationalizations?
Can you show me where this has been shown? For that matter, can you show me where I have quoted statistics? I'm far too lazy to dig the around the internet looking for supporting material unless I really have to. And if you can show me solid evidence from an unbiased source, not just one I agree with, it will go far to changing my mind on a subject. For the record, while I may agree with much on crooksandliars.com, I do not believe everything it post without independent corroborative evidence.
 
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Littlenipper accused me of using "tainted statistics" in another thread where I presented no statistics at all.
 
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Ooh. Revelations 2 has more vague mentionings of sexual immorality. We don't know if this is even literal immorality; it could be that the the sexual immorality/adultery mentioned in Rev 2:20-21 (NIV trans) could even be a spiritual one -- in other words, worshipping Roman deities.

Again, LN, you don't have a Biblical or scientific leg to stand on.
 
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I'm gonna type this slowly so you can be sure to read it.

I... don't... care... I don't care what you think Jesus said or thought I just don't care. So you don't want to marry homosexuals in your church. I don't care. It's out here in the real world that you're proving to be a pain in my butt. You're causing real world bigotry to occur in a secular society. What Jesus may or may not have thought or said is meaningless to our constitution.

So people who hide behind cloaks of "Christianity" to its distortion are not to be tolerated unless that congregation cares to be punished by GOD.
I wouldn't hold my breath were I you.
 
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Oh, bless you! But what I mean was, "I thought this mindset would have died out with most of the producers of Boys Beware."

I second your motion, but nothing will come out of it. In the meantime, grab your glowsticks! It's a rave.
Woo! *raves* But yeah, as you said, my statement was pretty much ignored. No surprise, actually. :/
 
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Some would do wise to learn from the historical facts they strive to repeat.
He... never mentioned anything about history... just that he's a history teacher. Yet... I don['t even know how this post relates to the thread we're talking about anyway.
 
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Jesus never said one word about homosexuality. He never said marriage was between one man and one woman. He does condemn divorce, though.
How would you explain a man having multiple wives? That is condoned in the Bible. As for sex not being condoned outside of marriage -- what about concubines?
 
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All you are doing is bringing up 30 year old data of dubious provenance.

When talking about gay people you still ignore the low levels of STDs and promiscuity in the lesbian communities.

Until you stop being biased and admit you are talking about gay men and not homosexuals in general you are making youself appear stupid and biased.

Once we are just talking about gay men we can compare their behaviour to that of heterosexual men.

men are sexually incontinent, why you would expect gay men to be any different is beyond me.

You either have a creepy anti-gay agenda or you just aren't very good at presenting data.

I'm not the only one pointing this out.
 
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Some point to Jonathan and David.

Others to Ruth and Naomi. How many people who quote Ruth 1:16-17 in their marriage vows, recognizing the commitment therein, understand the circumstances under which the words were first spoken?
[bible]Ruth 1:16-17[/bible]

There are other pairings that cause some people's "gaydar" to go off. (I myself don't always see them, but my "gaydar" is not very strong.) Potiphar and Joseph, Ashpenaz and Daniel, Elijah and Elisha, Jehu and Jehondab
 
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Some research "goes off" due to its very nature. I work in education research, and much research in this field has a very limited shelf life since the very subject of the research changes. The way that people teach, the social background of the children, the things that are taught - all of these change constantly over time. Although there is some research which is relatively independent of these factors, we always have to treat anything over a decade old with caution and think about whether changing conditions have reduced its validity. The same applies to anything whose subject is essentially societal - including, for example, the attitudes and activities of any subset of society.
 
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Can anyone show one case of a homosexuality in the bible approved by God?

Again, it's the social result that God condemns, not the act itself.

What are these "social results that God condemns"? Give us some Bible verses that support this claim, then give us some real-world evidence that corroborates your interpretation. Then we'll discuss.

Marriage is beneficial to society, regardless of whether it is gay or straight. There's no evidence of divine condemnation in the Bible, so does it matter if there's approval? We do many things in the modern world that were neither denied nor approved in Biblical times.
 
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Note how He does not exclude other marriage arrangements in His statement.
CHRIST NEVER EXCLUDED ANYTHING THAT COUNTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS SAKE. That doesn't say much for "gay marriage" now does it?
 
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That is why I don't bother providing you with statistics .....
 
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