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I am a very unintelligent human being. So these questions are going to be stupid. But it is still something I've been thinking about.

Scientist are saying the sun is shrinking, which kind of scares me. If that's the truth, are we going to freeze one day?

Also doesn't that prove there was a beginning when the earth came into being? Because if the earth was always here, like I've heard people question, wouldn't the sun at one time be touching the earth?

Also, if the big bang actually happened, wouldn't matter be distributed equally among planets?

Also, what is the point of all the other planets? Do they have something to do with the earth's existence? Do they make life possible on earth?

Sorry for my stupid questions.
 
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Hi, Cedric! :wave:

Nice to meet you!

You aren't stupid at all.

I hold a monopoly in that arena! ^_^
Scientist are saying the sun is shrinking, which kind of scares me. If that's the truth, are we going to freeze one day?
Let it shrink!

God is in control, and He has plans for how this universe is going to end.

Notice I have EARTH ONE as my location?

We Christians will be living on a New Earth someday! :)
Also, what is the point of all the other planets?
I don't know.

But I like to think the planets are a sort of paradise for the angels to visit.

They are the "Six Flags" of the angelic world.

(Just my 2¢ here.)
 
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I am a very unintelligent human being. So these questions are going to be stupid. But it is still something I've been thinking about.

Scientist are saying the sun is shrinking, which kind of scares me. If that's the truth, are we going to freeze one day?

No, the Earth is going to burn up in a fire when/as the sun expands into a giant.

Also doesn't that prove there was a beginning when the earth came into being? Because if the earth was always here, like I've heard people question, wouldn't the sun at one time be touching the earth?

The Sun hasn't been behaving in that manner, its not a linear shrinking from some original size.

Also, if the big bang actually happened, wouldn't matter be distributed equally among planets?

The really basic answer for the basic hypothesis on why that is not the case is minute variations in space time causing different sections of the expanding universe to collapse into different areas/objects as it were. This of course is pretty unknowable at the moment but its an explanation that works, yet the answer can remain "don't know why things ended up how they did."

Also, what is the point of all the other planets? Do they have something to do with the earth's existence? Do they make life possible on earth?

They don't have a point anymore than we have a point really, but Jupiter certainly helps out by grabbing a lot of the comets/asteroids in its gravity well that might otherwise bombard the inner planets.
 
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I am a very unintelligent human being. So these questions are going to be stupid. But it is still something I've been thinking about.

Einstein said that if a fish is judged by its ability to climb trees it'll spend its whole life believing it's stupid.

Scientist are saying the sun is shrinking, which kind of scares me. If that's the truth, are we going to freeze one day?

If the sun is shrinking, it doesn't necessarily mean it will get colder. But if it did get colder, we wouldn't see the effects for millions and millions of years. The sun is utterly HUGE!

Also doesn't that prove there was a beginning when the earth came into being? Because if the earth was always here, like I've heard people question, wouldn't the sun at one time be touching the earth?

If the sun once touched the Earth it would be scorched dry and dead. Just because the sun is getting smaller, doesn't mean that it didn't at one time get bigger in the past. It's a huge ball of fire and plasma, essentially. It can swell and retract.


Also, if the big bang actually happened, wouldn't matter be distributed equally among planets?

That would be very improbably. The next time you watch an explosion in slow motion you'll see what I mean.

Also, what is the point of all the other planets? Do they have something to do with the earth's existence? Do they make life possible on earth?

Perhaps, but do they have to have an expressed rational purpose? Can't they just ''be''? I always find that man, in his self-awareness, wants to look up at the clouds and ask ''why are you here??'' The clouds obviously provide water, they're the result of various mechanisms to do with Earth's temperature, gravity and chemical composition. But still people want to look up, knowing the factors that came before the cloud, and ask ''yes, but what is their purpose??''

I think there's a certain point where we have to stop asking ''why'' and be content with asking ''how''. I think asking for an expressed cosmic purpose for clouds beyond them being water that will fall, is sort of like asking ''what emotion is a raindrop?''

It's a question that doesn't really have an answer.

Sorry for my stupid questions.

Don't be. I'm happy to be able to answer them for you.
 
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Einstein said that if a fish is judged by its ability to climb trees it'll spend its whole life believing it's stupid.
Indeed and that is why Science has rules by which "oranges" are not mixed with "apples".



If the sun is shrinking, it doesn't necessarily mean it will get colder. But if it did get colder, we wouldn't see the effects for millions and millions of years. The sun is utterly HUGE!



Here is a simple lifecycle of our Sun.
Lifecycle-of-the-Sun.png
 
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Scientist are saying the sun is shrinking, which kind of scares me. If that's the truth, are we going to freeze one day?

The sun will not live forever. mzungu posted a nice life-cycle of a star like our sun. Ultimately the Sun will get bigger, turn into a red giant, and probably swallow the earth, burning it up. This will not happen for billions of years. So it's not something you need to worry about. Our distant descendants (if any) may have to move somewhere else.

Also doesn't that prove there was a beginning when the earth came into being? Because if the earth was always here, like I've heard people question, wouldn't the sun at one time be touching the earth?

The fact that the sun is changing size at a particular rate right now doesn't mean we can extrapolate that much. However, we know from other reasons that the earth came into being. It formed from the same cloud of gas that formed the sun and the other planets, some 4.5 billion years ago.

Also, if the big bang actually happened, wouldn't matter be distributed equally among planets?

There's no direct connection between the big bang (which happened some 10 or more billion years ago) and the formation of the planets in our solar system (4.5 billion years ago). When people make computer models of star system formation, you get planets of different sizes.

Also, what is the point of all the other planets? Do they have something to do with the earth's existence? Do they make life possible on earth?

The process of forming a star and planetary system tends to produce multiple planets. Although the other planets tug on the earth with their gravity (puny compared to the sun's pull, but causing some effects on the earth's orbit) I don't think this would have anything to do with making life possible. Of the several planets that formed, the earth was the one that has an orbit in the 'goldilocks zone' where water is generally a liquid. That makes life a lot more likely (than if all water is frozen ice, or boiled away into vapor).
 
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Hi, Cedric! :wave:

Nice to meet you!

You aren't stupid at all.

I hold a monopoly in that arena! ^_^

Let it shrink!

God is in control, and He has plans for how this universe is going to end.

Notice I have EARTH ONE as my location?

We Christians will be living on a New Earth someday! :)

I don't know.

But I like to think the planets are a sort of paradise for the angels to visit.

They are the "Six Flags" of the angelic world.

(Just my 2¢ here.)
Nice to meet you too.

Thank you
 
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No, the Earth is going to burn up in a fire when/as the sun expands into a giant.



The Sun hasn't been behaving in that manner, its not a linear shrinking from some original size.



The really basic answer for the basic hypothesis on why that is not the case is minute variations in space time causing different sections of the expanding universe to collapse into different areas/objects as it were. This of course is pretty unknowable at the moment but its an explanation that works, yet the answer can remain "don't know why things ended up how they did."



They don't have a point anymore than we have a point really, but Jupiter certainly helps out by grabbing a lot of the comets/asteroids in its gravity well that might otherwise bombard the inner planets.
OK. I am new to this science area. But I've been watching documentaries. And quite undertsand everything. Thank you.
 
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Einstein said that if a fish is judged by its ability to climb trees it'll spend its whole life believing it's stupid.



If the sun is shrinking, it doesn't necessarily mean it will get colder. But if it did get colder, we wouldn't see the effects for millions and millions of years. The sun is utterly HUGE!



If the sun once touched the Earth it would be scorched dry and dead. Just because the sun is getting smaller, doesn't mean that it didn't at one time get bigger in the past. It's a huge ball of fire and plasma, essentially. It can swell and retract.




That would be very improbably. The next time you watch an explosion in slow motion you'll see what I mean.



Perhaps, but do they have to have an expressed rational purpose? Can't they just ''be''? I always find that man, in his self-awareness, wants to look up at the clouds and ask ''why are you here??'' The clouds obviously provide water, they're the result of various mechanisms to do with Earth's temperature, gravity and chemical composition. But still people want to look up, knowing the factors that came before the cloud, and ask ''yes, but what is their purpose??''

I think there's a certain point where we have to stop asking ''why'' and be content with asking ''how''. I think asking for an expressed cosmic purpose for clouds beyond them being water that will fall, is sort of like asking ''what emotion is a raindrop?''

It's a question that doesn't really have an answer.



Don't be. I'm happy to be able to answer them for you.
Thank you for answering.
 
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The sun will not live forever. mzungu posted a nice life-cycle of a star like our sun. Ultimately the Sun will get bigger, turn into a red giant, and probably swallow the earth, burning it up. This will not happen for billions of years. So it's not something you need to worry about. Our distant descendants (if any) may have to move somewhere else.



The fact that the sun is changing size at a particular rate right now doesn't mean we can extrapolate that much. However, we know from other reasons that the earth came into being. It formed from the same cloud of gas that formed the sun and the other planets, some 4.5 billion years ago.



There's no direct connection between the big bang (which happened some 10 or more billion years ago) and the formation of the planets in our solar system (4.5 billion years ago). When people make computer models of star system formation, you get planets of different sizes.



The process of forming a star and planetary system tends to produce multiple planets. Although the other planets tug on the earth with their gravity (puny compared to the sun's pull, but causing some effects on the earth's orbit) I don't think this would have anything to do with making life possible. Of the several planets that formed, the earth was the one that has an orbit in the 'goldilocks zone' where water is generally a liquid. That makes life a lot more likely (than if all water is frozen ice, or boiled away into vapor).
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I am a very unintelligent human being. So these questions are going to be stupid. But it is still something I've been thinking about.

Scientist are saying the sun is shrinking, which kind of scares me. If that's the truth, are we going to freeze one day?

Also doesn't that prove there was a beginning when the earth came into being? Because if the earth was always here, like I've heard people question, wouldn't the sun at one time be touching the earth?

Also, if the big bang actually happened, wouldn't matter be distributed equally among planets?

Also, what is the point of all the other planets? Do they have something to do with the earth's existence? Do they make life possible on earth?

Sorry for my stupid questions.

1. Freeze? Not within your lifetime, that is for sure. Additionally, the size of stars doesn't continually go in one direction; young stars gain mass and size as they form, while older stars lose it as they give off more energy. Funny thing though, in their final stages, stars become unstable and expand, and many go out with a bang. This is because the size of stars more is relative to their density and stability rather than mass alone.

2. Not likely, since it would have been incinerated. This also isn't how orbits work either. And... the earth does have a beginning, why wouldn't it?

3. No, random chance would lead some to collect more matter than others.

4. The other planets probably have very little to do with life on earth, quite frankly. Some think that the first life could have developed on Mars and a piece of the planet ended up on earth, seeding it with life, but if any mass besides the sun and the earth have a say on life, the moon probably has a degree of influence. Mercury could vanish tomorrow, and I don't think that would do much beyond scare us.
 
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1. Freeze? Not within your lifetime, that is for sure. Additionally, the size of stars doesn't continually go in one direction; young stars gain mass and size as they form, while older stars lose it as they give off more energy. Funny thing though, in their final stages, stars become unstable and expand, and many go out with a bang. This is because the size of stars more is relative to their density and stability rather than mass alone.

2. Not likely, since it would have been incinerated. This also isn't how orbits work either. And... the earth does have a beginning, why wouldn't it?

3. No, random chance would lead some to collect more matter than others.

4. The other planets probably have very little to do with life on earth, quite frankly. Some think that the first life could have developed on Mars and a piece of the planet ended up on earth, seeding it with life, but if any mass besides the sun and the earth have a say on life, the moon probably has a degree of influence. Mercury could vanish tomorrow, and I don't think that would do much beyond scare us.
Thank you for answering.
 
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Scientist are saying the sun is shrinking, which kind of scares me. If that's the truth, are we going to freeze one day?

This has already been pretty well answered. I would only add that it's important to remember that a star, which our sun is, is a massive fusion reactor. Stars are primarily composed of hydrogen and is also a star's fuel source, as hydrogen is consumed it produced other elements such as helium. In fact this is how many of the complex elements are produced, in the centers of stars. A star's lifespan is determined by its size and energy output, hotter larger stars consume go through their hydrogen faster than cooler small stars. A star's life comes to an end when it exhausts its hydrogen reserves and begins to consume heavier elements. In a star like our sun that results ultimately in the sun expanding into a red giant--which as others said won't happen for another several billion years. But this will ultimately result in the sun shedding its outer material and shrinking down into a white dwarf. Other stars, notably large ones (our sun is sort of small as stars go) which when they reach the end of their life explode releasing trillions of tons of stellar matter into the cosmos.

Also doesn't that prove there was a beginning when the earth came into being? Because if the earth was always here, like I've heard people question, wouldn't the sun at one time be touching the earth?

The earth, like the other planets in our solar system, came into existence from remnant matter from the formation of our sin. In the early days of our solar system soon after the sun formed there was what we call an accretion disc, a disc of material circling around the primitive sun. Over the course of millions of years matter moving and bumping into one another and gravity resulted in the formation of larger chunks of matter. Mass attracts mass, and so at one point there were possibly hundreds of planetoids circling the sun. Things smashing into one another, and so on. This is how our earth was born, and indeed the moon was likely formed very early in earth's life when a Mars sized planet smashed into early earth, resulting in tons of matter being flung into space, that's our moon. It's also likely that this is the reason we still have such a very active planetary core. The earth cooled, icy comets likely brought water, forming oceans. The earth's atmosphere would have probably been primarily carbon dioxide, fortunately early cellular life began producing oxygen--bad for other living things, but great for us.

Also, if the big bang actually happened, wouldn't matter be distributed equally among planets?

The big bang doesn't have to do with the solar system. But the universe. The theory says that at the beginning of time the universe was a single point of insanely hot dense energy, and "exploded". Though that's a poor way of thinking of it, the universe expanded, very, very rapidly. The universe, in fact, is still expanding. Space itself is expanding.

Also, what is the point of all the other planets? Do they have something to do with the earth's existence? Do they make life possible on earth?

Well in some cases the other planets are absolutely essential for life here on earth. Jupiter, being so big, protects us from a lot of the really dangerous comets and asteroids that frequently come zooming in from the outer solar system. Without the giant planets out there like Jupiter or Saturn we'd likely see a lot more action than we do--and that'd be really bad for life here on earth.

So we're in a pretty great position, we're in the right place from the sun so that liquid water can exist, we have an active core that means a magnetic field that protects us from most of the most harmful rays from the sun, we have a moon that helps keep much of our planet regulated, we have a pretty fantastic axial tilt that keeps our seasons basically mild, we have large outer planets that protect us from many of the dangers floating out at the edge of the solar system.

We got things pretty good on earth. It's a good planet to live on.

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This has already been pretty well answered. I would only add that it's important to remember that a star, which our sun is, is a massive fusion reactor. Stars are primarily composed of hydrogen and is also a star's fuel source, as hydrogen is consumed it produced other elements such as helium. In fact this is how many of the complex elements are produced, in the centers of stars. A star's lifespan is determined by its size and energy output, hotter larger stars consume go through their hydrogen faster than cooler small stars. A star's life comes to an end when it exhausts its hydrogen reserves and begins to consume heavier elements. In a star like our sun that results ultimately in the sun expanding into a red giant--which as others said won't happen for another several billion years. But this will ultimately result in the sun shedding its outer material and shrinking down into a white dwarf. Other stars, notably large ones (our sun is sort of small as stars go) which when they reach the end of their life explode releasing trillions of tons of stellar matter into the cosmos.



The earth, like the other planets in our solar system, came into existence from remnant matter from the formation of our sin. In the early days of our solar system soon after the sun formed there was what we call an accretion disc, a disc of material circling around the primitive sun. Over the course of millions of years matter moving and bumping into one another and gravity resulted in the formation of larger chunks of matter. Mass attracts mass, and so at one point there were possibly hundreds of planetoids circling the sun. Things smashing into one another, and so on. This is how our earth was born, and indeed the moon was likely formed very early in earth's life when a Mars sized planet smashed into early earth, resulting in tons of matter being flung into space, that's our moon. It's also likely that this is the reason we still have such a very active planetary core. The earth cooled, icy comets likely brought water, forming oceans. The earth's atmosphere would have probably been primarily carbon dioxide, fortunately early cellular life began producing oxygen--bad for other living things, but great for us.



The big bang doesn't have to do with the solar system. But the universe. The theory says that at the beginning of time the universe was a single point of insanely hot dense energy, and "exploded". Though that's a poor way of thinking of it, the universe expanded, very, very rapidly. The universe, in fact, is still expanding. Space itself is expanding.



Well in some cases the other planets are absolutely essential for life here on earth. Jupiter, being so big, protects us from a lot of the really dangerous comets and asteroids that frequently come zooming in from the outer solar system. Without the giant planets out there like Jupiter or Saturn we'd likely see a lot more action than we do--and that'd be really bad for life here on earth.

So we're in a pretty great position, we're in the right place from the sun so that liquid water can exist, we have an active core that means a magnetic field that protects us from most of the most harmful rays from the sun, we have a moon that helps keep much of our planet regulated, we have a pretty fantastic axial tilt that keeps our seasons basically mild, we have large outer planets that protect us from many of the dangers floating out at the edge of the solar system.

We got things pretty good on earth. It's a good planet to live on.

-CryptoLutheran

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I am a very unintelligent human being. So these questions are going to be stupid. But it is still something I've been thinking about.

There's a difference between being "unintelligent" and "ignorant", just saying.

You can be intelligent and ignorant at the same time. We are all ignorant of lots of things, because we can't all be experts in everything.

That doesn't mean we are all stupid.

Scientist are saying the sun is shrinking, which kind of scares me. If that's the truth, are we going to freeze one day?

I've never heared about the idea that the sun is shrinking.
As the sun burns through its fuel, it will heavily expand, engulfing and thereby destroying the inner planets. Earth included.

However, it will take billions of years for that to happen. My guess is that humans will have gone extinct long ago by then.

Also doesn't that prove there was a beginning when the earth came into being? Because if the earth was always here, like I've heard people question, wouldn't the sun at one time be touching the earth?

No. The earth, like other planets, is formed by the left over matter of the molecular cloud the sun was born in. This matter clutters together through friction and gravity and eventually forms planets (and asteroids etc).

Also, if the big bang actually happened, wouldn't matter be distributed equally among planets?

No. The composition of galaxies and solar systems is a very complex mess influenced by gravitational forces, super novae, black holes, etc. I wouldn't expect a perfectly even distribution.

Also, what is the point of all the other planets?

There's no "cosmic" point to them, just like there isn't a "cosmic" point to earth or our sun. The earth is a planet among trillions and the sun is a star among trillions. There's nothing particularly special about our planet or sun compared to others.

Off course our planet happens to be able to sustain our type of life (ie: carbon based). We consider that "special" in hindsight, but honestly, there's nothing objectively special about this planet that requires extra-ordinary explanation as opposed to other planets.


Do they have something to do with the earth's existence?


No.

Do they make life possible on earth?


No.

Sorry for my stupid questions.

One of my drum instructors back in the day said to me once "There are no stupid questions... only stupid answers...."
 
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There's a difference between being "unintelligent" and "ignorant", just saying.

You can be intelligent and ignorant at the same time. We are all ignorant of lots of things, because we can't all be experts in everything.

That doesn't mean we are all stupid.



I've never heared about the idea that the sun is shrinking.
As the sun burns through its fuel, it will heavily expand, engulfing and thereby destroying the inner planets. Earth included.

However, it will take billions of years for that to happen. My guess is that humans will have gone extinct long ago by then.



No. The earth, like other planets, is formed by the left over matter of the molecular cloud the sun was born in. This matter clutters together through friction and gravity and eventually forms planets (and asteroids etc).



No. The composition of galaxies and solar systems is a very complex mess influenced by gravitational forces, super novae, black holes, etc. I wouldn't expect a perfectly even distribution.



There's no "cosmic" point to them, just like there isn't a "cosmic" point to earth or our sun. The earth is a planet among trillions and the sun is a star among trillions. There's nothing particularly special about our planet or sun compared to others.

Off course our planet happens to be able to sustain our type of life (ie: carbon based). We consider that "special" in hindsight, but honestly, there's nothing objectively special about this planet that requires extra-ordinary explanation as opposed to other planets.





No.




No.



One of my drum instructors back in the day said to me once "There are no stupid questions... only stupid answers...."
WOW.

Thanks for helping me understand.
 
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Einstein said that if a fish is judged by its ability to climb trees it'll spend its whole life believing it's stupid.
I doubt it was Einstein who said that, but I agree with the sentiment.
 
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