Just to say that the story goes that I was wisbed by my mother but feel abandoned and not guided by my father. I had to look to other sources for guidance. And at my age I still feel like a child inside.
But to answer believing and professing God. I believe that there are people who say the Creed and are not from God. They just repeat without believing. That I feel is wrong.
Regarding "errors" in the Bible ...
This is actually an important point to understand, IMO. There are some Christian denominations who have as an important part of their beliefs that the Bible is ABSOLUTELY without any error or contradiction of any kind. But when you look at things like the events on the days of the week when Christ was crucified, you start to see discrepancies.
If your faith hinges on the Bible being perfectly in harmony, then a discrepancy right there in black and white may shake your faith. That's why I don't argue with people who believe that - I don't want to "be right" at the cost of damaging their faith. I don't think Christ would look kindly on me potentially sacrificing someone's faith for the sake of my momentary pride! But I worry for folks like that, because they are always at risk.
The same teaching opens Christianity to ridicule by Atheists and agnostics, and perhaps prevents them from coming to faith. Frankly, it's a dangerous doctrine, as it is sometimes expressed.
Now, the Bible IS true. The principles there, and the events in general, and so on really happened, and are an account as seen by that person. But as someone else pointed out, people don't have the same point of view (and our memories can blur details like the day or year, perhaps). If you have siblings, sit down with them and ask them in detail about something somewhat significant. I did once and was shocked at how differently my brother and sister saw things! Or if no siblings, maybe an old friend or other family member.
The thing is, such little discrepancies actually make the Scriptures MORE reliable, if you think about it. If someone were assembling a falsehood, wouldn't they reasonably make every effort to make sure the stories matched? They wouldn't leave room for easy doubt. But the fact is, the early Church knew the truth of what they saw, what they experienced. They were confident enough of the truth NOT to try to gloss over or remove discrepancies, but let them all stand, just as they are. So any charges of the Scriptures being fabricated, especially by a central authority, should be very easily dismissed.
I know this doesn't answer everything, but the fact is, our faith is in GOD, not in the Scriptures themselves. They are our legacy, our guideposts, letters from God and the Saints who love us, and they are profitable, edifying, and true. But they are not a research paper. And it is in God Himself where our hope is found.
But by all means, feel free to ask about confusing passages. Some have definitive answers. Some we are not absolutely sure about. And that's ok.
MOD HAT
Posts have been removed for being off topic and against the SOP of Traditional Theology.
So what, exactly, was wrong with my professional response, answering the OP in detail, early in the thread - a response that has received several positive 'votes' from others on this thread?
Ah, just realised who the Mod is that has 'cleaned' the thread! Never mind, forget it!!!
Likely the problem was with posts that were off topic to Traditional Theology.
My main post wasn't.
Good to see you again on here. Hope you are keeping well.
Our Father never forsook our Lord. Y'shua was quoting the 1st verse of Psalm 22, which is the crucifixion psalm in the OT. With His dying breaths He was fulfilling Scripture and teaching us at the same time.In Matthew 26:39 Who is there to record the words Jesus prayed to the Father? No one. It seems it is put there just to make a narrative.
Next there are three last words of Jesus in the cross. Which one is right. One, or none.
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? ... Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. Matthew 27:46-50
Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. Luke 23:46
It is finished.
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. John 19:30
And then the pregnacy of Mary is put in Luke Chapter 1 during the reign of Herodes the Great that died around 4BC, and the birth of Jesus is placed while Quirinius is governator of Syria 10 years after Herodes died. Mary's preagnancy could not last 10 years instead of 9 months.
Something isn't right in these accounts. And these were what I found in a short amount of time. So kindly please explain them all.
I spiritually perceive that you are "baby" Christ-follower in the first baby steps of your journey...a SALVATION EVENT ...THEN...A SANCTIFICATION PROCESS.
Mine the Scriptures for those 2 words.
RECOMMEND: seek and find an assembly "church" ask for a written "Doctrinal Statement" a Great ONE is found HERE: Doctrinal Statement | Dallas Theological Seminary (DTS)
Read / spiritually discern the entire Bible SYSTEMATICALLY. For example" "Through the Bible in 1 year" courses
I recommend the NASB version STUDY BIBLE (Ryrie) because it the most LITERAL translation from the original languages.
ORDER:
1. read all of John (the elder)...Gospel + Letters + Revelatiion...THEN: Matthew=> Luke => Mark => Acts
2. Then read ALL the letters of Paul IN ORDER starting with Romans...his PH.D. dissertation
3. Then read the rest of the NT
The NT will reference the OT, especially the first 5 books ~= the Torah. Go there when quoted/referenced.
You should be in an assembly/"church' for fellowship with the wiser / more mature in Christ + BIBLE STUDY. God might find you a mate there! (IF you need one!)
Why have I taken the time to rant above? My spirit was moved me to so do.
Luke 2:40
The Child continued to grow and become strong,
increasing in wisdom; and the grace of God was upon Him.
Hebrews 5:13
For everyone who partakes only of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he is an infant.
1 Peter 2:2
like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word (of God),
so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation,
Ephesians 6:10[ The FULL Armor of God ]
Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might.
1 John 2:14
I have written to you, fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning.
I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and
the word of God abides in you, and
you have overcome the evil one.
Ecclesiastes 12 is FULL of wisdom! (Soloman?)
2 Chronicles 15:7
But you, be strong and do not lose courage, for there is reward for your work.”
Job 17:9
“Nevertheless the righteous will hold to His way,
And he who has clean hands will grow stronger and stronger.
Psalm 18:2
The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer,
My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge;
My shield and the horn of my salvation,
my stronghold.
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