Now he's getting into numerology. I think he should take his nonsense into the theological debate forum and this thread in our forum be closed.
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Think I'll sit down here for a bit... (5)
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Yeah, I'll ask that a mod close it down. I had no idea that Ben would not be able to read through the thread to see what had been posted so far on it. A good working definition of Universalism was given by JimFromOhio in post # 5 and I had told people to read through the forum rules, so there would be no breaches of forum rules. I had no idea it would turn into a thread promoting the nonsensical ravings of the lunatic mind, if I may quote Gene Wilder from Young Frankenstein.
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Ya think you might have waited a bit too long? It's hard to discuss theology with a guy who thinks the Bible has hidden meanings.
He seems a bit beyond help in this kind of setting. I don't know that any good could have come from it.
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"Ya think you might have waited a bit too long?"
Not at all. I think the thread could still be salvaged if Ben would agree to post on universalism and not run off on tangents that don't lead anywhere. The thread was set up just fine and in accordance with forum policy. We had a working definition of Universalism provided by JimFromOhio in post # 5. All we needed was a universalist.
So then Ben showed up, probably didn't read anything that had been posted previously, which is evidenced by his claim that there was never any ground work or foundation laid for the definition of universalism, and derailed the thread by talknig about mistranslations of the Bible or whatever it was he went off on upon his arrival here.
But none of that matters now as the fun thing to do is come after me for supposedly breaking the rules of this forum. Which if you read back through this very thread, you'll see that I did not do.
"It's hard to discuss theology with a guy who thinks the Bible has hidden meanings."
I agree. I thought he would be a man of his word and stick to a debate about universalism. I was wrong about him on that front. Tavita was worried that the Lutherans would try and get out of this debate by reporting any post that contained a teaching they didn't like in an effort to get the thread shut down. Looks like she was right about that one. I hate saying that she is right about anything, but hey ya gotta hand it to her on this one. She nailed it.
"He seems a bit beyond help in this kind of setting. I don't know that any good could have come from it."
Well, he does have the air of superior spirituality about him doesn't he? Everyone is in Baby lon and drinking the spiritual milk and is not ready for the mature meat of the Bible. But when you read his posts and I can point you to dozens, you realize that the meat he's eating has made him prideful, arrogant and completely ignorant of the plain meaning of scriptures. As to what good could have come from this, I was actually learning how to deal with people like him in a much more calm and simple way. But we'll never know what could have been, because the thread is now closed and people are filing false reports about me and what I've done. I'll let the mods decide my fate on this one.
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I reported Ben. I found it a help to no one on where his diatribe was going. I can go to any denom site and find in 500 words or less what the premises of their beliefs are. Trying to nail him down to any subject even close to what UC according to him was an exercise in futility. It doesn't take ramblings in esoteric web weaving and slly nuances to get points across about scripture. There are no hidden meanings or hidden agendas that God has.
We didn't talk in circles and his esoteric ramblings even when he quoted scripture didn't support any premise in UC that I know of.
And BTW Zecr he wasn't reported because we decided it " contained a teaching we didn't like". It was shut down because he present himself under false pretenses. He never got to the point of UC and when he continued his ramblings it was obvious he was bent on expressing his own personal religion based on obscure mysteries, numerology and opinion based on his obscure interpretations of the Bible. Which was one of the "things" that he said were an anathema to him. He basically doesn't trust anyone but himself.
We didn't talk in circles and his esoteric ramblings even when he quoted scripture didn't support any premise in UC that I know of.
And BTW Zecr he wasn't reported because we decided it " contained a teaching we didn't like". It was shut down because he present himself under false pretenses. He never got to the point of UC and when he continued his ramblings it was obvious he was bent on expressing his own personal religion based on obscure mysteries, numerology and opinion based on his obscure interpretations of the Bible. Which was one of the "things" that he said were an anathema to him. He basically doesn't trust anyone but himself.
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Yes, my brother has a set of twins (they're 5) and they just found out they are expecting twins again.
It is somewhat bittersweet for me, as I was pregnant with twins but lost one. But I am very happy for them, and happy to be sharing a pregnancy with my SIL. They have been trying to conceive for over a year now.
It is somewhat bittersweet for me, as I was pregnant with twins but lost one. But I am very happy for them, and happy to be sharing a pregnancy with my SIL. They have been trying to conceive for over a year now.
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Thanks, Becky!
It always feels weird typing that name, cuz it's mine, only I spell it the RIGHT way! ;-)
It always feels weird typing that name, cuz it's mine, only I spell it the RIGHT way! ;-)
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Oops also meant to add, the tiny town near me is having a Festival type thing called Frontier days, people selling food, crafts, etc, antique tractors set for showing off, antique car show, food, and a lot of other stuff like a parade too. Probably go to it for a little bit.
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We have a frontiers day in my little town as well. Too much fun to be had.
The weekend of my birthday, we have Buskerfest where all sorts of people come out and have crafts to sell, there's wandering musicians and minstrels and all sorts of good food. I can't wait!
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Oktoberfest started in the town where my mother lives today. The town is dry too. The pastor of my mother's church said its the first time they've been to an Oktoberfest that was dry.
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Heh, I'm not a big drinker but even *I* know that Oktoberfest should have BEER.
*G* Silly town.
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*G* Silly town.
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