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Think about it

Discussion in 'Christianity and World Religion' started by yaqovzadeek, Aug 13, 2009.

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  1. yaqovzadeek

    yaqovzadeek Veteran

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    Think about it:
    God creeated man in 4 ways:
    Adam was created with no father no mother. No big deal at all for GOd
    Eve was created with a father with no intervention of a mother. Again no big deal for the almighty creator.
    Jesus was created with a mother and no intervention of a father.Again a piece of cake for the almighty all power God.
    Last but not least God created us with intervention of both mother and father.
    Even greater piece of cake for the lord of the worlds.
    So we are all like Adam created by God in his wonderful ways, but this creation (adam)was even more spectacular than ours. He was created from Nothing.
    Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you deny?
    peace
    Yaqovzadeek
    aka James the just
     
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  2. Eudaimonist

    Eudaimonist I believe in life before death!

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    This question only applies to people who believe in the existence of your God.


    eudaimonia,

    Mark
     
  3. yaqovzadeek

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    The fact that he created you too he is your God too. whether you beleive in him or not does not change that fact though.

    43:87. And if you ask them who created them, they will surely say: "Allâh".
    67:23. Say it is He Who has created you, and endowed you with hearing (ears), seeing (eyes), and hearts. Little thanks you give.
    52:35. Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
    peace
    Yaqovzadeek
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  4. Eudaimonist

    Eudaimonist I believe in life before death!

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    This is not a fact.

    It also wouldn't change a fact that God doesn't exist.


    eudaimonia,

    Mark
     
  5. yaqovzadeek

    yaqovzadeek Veteran

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    So did you create yourself?
    peace
    Yaqovzadeek
    aka James the just
     
  6. Eudaimonist

    Eudaimonist I believe in life before death!

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    No.


    eudaimonia,

    Mark
     
  7. Bushmaster78FS

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    Where is my popcorn? Eudaimonist, your mom created you.
     
  8. Bushmaster78FS

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    But...but... Jesus called someone Father. Was he lying to us? :doh:
     
  9. Isambard

    Isambard Nihilist Extrodinaire

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    Simply declaring it doesn't make it true. Case and point, I'm sure there are similar statments made in the Vedas, Greco-Roman myths, and Nordic epics.
     
  10. yaqovzadeek

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    Well the jesus I beleive in does not lie. Anyway you know very well that the father is only a spiritual father,every time you recite the lord's prayer do you say, his father or jesus's father who art in heaven.You beleive that all peace makers, all christains are sons of god so in reality Jesus is not lying and I am not, that leaves oner deceiver who likes do deceieve others into thinking Jesus was physically the son of God. When your own book conradicts this

    Mt 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
    You say our father not His father
    Mt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
    Mt 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
    Mt 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
    Mt 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

    Mt 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
    Mt 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

    so please cease from trying to deceive others.
    peace
    yaqovadeek
    aka James the just
     
  11. yaqovzadeek

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    I am sure you can quote some.
     
  12. Danhalen

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    What is the point of discussion if you are so firmly convinced you are correct that nothing can change your mind?
     
  13. Gardenia

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    Oh my God, Lord of Lords, Give me Your hand and save me.
    Shine upon me and sustain me.
    You are the only God and there is none like You.
    You are Ra Who rises in the heavens, Who created men and women.
    (Ancient Egyptian prayer from the new kingdom.)

    Uh-oh! Someone wrote it, people believe it, must be true? I've got a lot more, as well..

    See, the thing is, this sort of stuff exists in many religious texts from all over the world. People generally do believe that their God created them.. it's not exactly a shocking surprise. You can see why it alone isn't exactly proof, right? If someone quotes their holy texts to you, you just do not suddenly believe in them, do you? I doubt that you do. Why does it always seem so shocking to folks that means their own texts are seen as such by others as well... :sorry:
     
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  14. Isambard

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    Thousand-headed is Purusa, thousand-eyed, thousand-footed. Having covered the earth on all sides, he stood above it the width of ten fingers.

    Only Purusa is all this, that which has been and that which is to be. He is the lord of the immortals, who grow by means of [ritual] food.
    Such is his greatness, yet more than this is Purusa. One-quarter of him is all beings; three- quarters of him is the immortal in heaven.
    Three-quarters of Purusa went upward, one-quarter of him remained here. From this [one-quarter] he spread in all directions into what eats and what does not eat.
    From him the shining one was born, from the shining one was born Purusa. When born he extended beyond the earth, behind as well as in front.
    When the gods performed a sacrifice with the offering Purusa, spring was its clarified butter, summer the kindling, autumn the oblation.
    It was Purusa, born in the beginning, which they sprinkled on the sacred grass as a sacrifice. With him the gods sacrificed, the demi-gods, and the seers.
    From that sacrifice completely offered, the clotted butter was brought together. It made the beasts of the air, the forest and the village.
    From that sacrifice completely offered, the mantras [Rig Veda] and the songs [Samaveda] were born. The meters were born from it. The sacrificial formulae [Yajurveda] were born from it.
    From it the horses were born and all that have cutting teeth in both jaws. The cows were born from it, also. From it were born goats and sheep.
    When they divided Purusa, how many ways did they apportion him? What was his mouth? What were his arms? What were his thighs, his feet declared to be?
    His mouth was the Brahman [caste], his arms were the Rajanaya [Ksatriya caste], his thighs the Vaisya [caste]; from his feet the Sudra [caste] was born.
    The moon was born from his mind; from his eye the sun was born; from his mouth both Indra and Agni [fire]; from his breath Vayu [wind] was born.
    From his navel arose the air; from his head the heaven evolved; from his feet the earth; the [four] directions from his ear. Thus, they fashioned the worlds.
    Seven were his altar sticks, three times seven were the kindling bundles, when the gods, performing the sacrifice, bound the beast Purusa. The gods sacrificed with the sacrifice to the sacrifice. These were the first rites. These powers reached the firmament, where the ancient demi-gods and the gods are.
    -Rig Veda
     
  15. PT Calvinist

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    Perhaps we should go through the "Absolute Truth" Routine again...

    Is there an Absolute truth?
     
  16. dewaddict84

    dewaddict84 meh

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    1+1=2?
     
  17. vajradhara

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    Namaste yaqovzadeek,

    thank you for the post.

    i hope you don't think less of my response simple due to it being that of someone else... nevertheless:

    This question only applies to people who believe in the existence of your God. ~ Eudaimonist

    lacking a belief in your Creator Deity concept i cannot answer the query in any meaningful manner other than to simply say that my lord doesn't care about my denials or not and gives his blessings anyways.... of course that isn't really the question you were asking but it's the only way that i could actually participate.

    metta,

    ~v
     
  18. Bushmaster78FS

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    Jesus you believe only exists in your Quran, not in history.

    Christ's and our Father... Together, the first two words—Our Father—are a title used elsewhere in the New Testament, as well as in Jewish literature, to refer to God.

    There is no mention of Christians in that sermon. Don't twist it.

    The only one who is trying to deceive anyone is you by misquoting Biblical text. Your exegesis is wrong and biased, not to mention incoherent.
     
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