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Jesus'TroublesomeAngel

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No I don't dabble in the dark arts. When I was a kid I remember some friend and my sister and I tried to hold a seance one time making up a fake ouija board thing but it wasn't a real one and nothing spooky happened it was just a kiddy thing.

I am very aware you don't mess with stuff like that and I would never ever mess with the occult.
My family has had a lot of sickenss and we have even had a Mass said for us with others to lift any curses etc...

I will keep up with the THree Hail Marys and see if things improve. I think it's just everything seems to be getting worse at once and I can't do anything before I thought I could control it somehow, but I realise now I can't and although I give it all to God worse things are happening which I can't understand because I am trying to delight in the Lord yet I don't have my Hearts desires.

Also, someone I like I don't think cares for me and that is something really hard to deal with because I've been Praying for his conversion and so forth and I guess I just wish I didn't have to feel how do I for him. I would rather be called to a life of Holiness because liking someone is embarrassing and hurtful.

Thanks for Prayers. God Bless You all too and I Pray you all get the Peace and guidance you need I know it's hard.

It strikes me sometimes just how alone I am and it makes me really kind of have to sit down and try not think about it so much. I know God is with Us but why would He make us pine for others' company if He didn't want us to be with them?
 
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We have to go throughthe Agony in the Garden before we can ever even get to theCross. Many people never get out of the garden- the go in and once they find that everyone else and all consolation has left them- they walk right back out of that garden. You have to find a way to just enter into the feeling of abandonment without fleeing to the consolations of self inflicted pain, or anger, or drugs , or alcohol, or whatever has been your historic coping method.

Becoming like a little child doesn't mean , as you said, "letting people walk all over you." We are called to love one another as we love ourselves. You must learn to love yourself before you can live out the Christian vocation. I know you will give 600 excuses why this isn't possible for you, but it is the only way out of the pit.
 
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Oh man I have to Love myself first? Won't helping others just help me feel better about myself?

Ok...it's no secret I despise myself because no-one's ever liked me and I blame myself for that so how can I get out of that?
I have asked God to let me see me as He sees me.
 
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Our life in Christ is not an instant win game- it is a slow refining process. We need to just have the desrie to carry on. As Shelb said to me the other day "even Jesus fell beneath His Cross" And as Bl. Mother Teresa said "We are not called to be successful, only faithful".

Which means you need merely to have the sicere will to live as Christ calls us to live and the determination to carry on even when you fall. God is just- that means He understands our short comings and failings. We need to stop measuring our holiness and walk with Christ against the spiritual lives of others- for we are each indidually, uniquely made.

And yes- you have to love yourself first-- or at least desire that as your aim and actively persue that goal...
 
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Jesus'TroublesomeAngel said:
So should I accept I may never be successful?

NO, never give up HOPE, especially when all seems hopeless. This is when that virtue has the most merit! The same as in all trials. It is also beneficial that you pray for hope or more hope. There is always hope and never doubt that. It is never too late to have recourse to Jesus and Mary. :prayer:

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Isn't hope wrong though in the sense that we might hope and be real confident and then get our hopes dashed? It happened to me once and I was being very hopeful and acting like I already had what I wanted etc..which people say is a good thing to do but it never came off and it was extremely embarrassing.

A Psychiatrist? I know quite a few people that have been to them and prescribed medicine that made them a lot worse even suicidal. Would a Dr be able to diagnose me instead or a natural healer?
 
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Jesus'TroublesomeAngel said:
Isn't hope wrong though in the sense that we might hope and be real confident and then get our hopes dashed? It happened to me once and I was being very hopeful and acting like I already had what I wanted etc..which people say is a good thing to do but it never came off and it was extremely embarrassing.

A Psychiatrist? I know quite a few people that have been to them and prescribed medicine that made them a lot worse even suicidal. Would a Dr be able to diagnose me instead or a natural healer?

I can't begin to tell you how many times the same thing has happened to me. I had such great hope only to see them dashed and feel so incredibly discouraged afterwards. When this happens this is a suffering, but one that is most beneficial to offer up for love of God, even if we don't necessarily feel this love in a sensible way. It is your intent that matters in any sacrifice. We all hate when we feel so terrible but without this terrible feeling it would not be much of a suffering/cross. The greater the suffering, the greater the merit from it. Embarrassing things happen to me all the time. Some I would never dare let known. But this does teach us humility which is the foundation of all virtues. Humility can also be a great sacrifice to offer up to God.

Though it may seem impossible sometimes the best thing to do is t o pray for hope, love of God, Humility and the grace to accept and bear every cross that God so lovingly sends our way. Believe you me I struggle with this all the time. But again never give up hope. and never give up praying, even if it's just a little prayer but said well. :prayer:

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but I realise now I can't and although I give it all to God worse things are happening which I can't understand because I am trying to delight in the Lord yet I don't have my Hearts desires.

You cannot delight in the Lord if you continue to harbor anger and unrest in your heart. It simply will never happen and you will never find peace until you come to love who God created you to be and shun who you are not (what the world wants you to be). You say you desire "success". Why do you want to be successfull? What is success to you?

True success is found in the love of God, not in the standards of the world. Remember, this world is not our permanent home, so we should never begin living like it is.

May the Lord give you His peace!

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A psychiatrist is a medical doctor who has studied in illnesses of the brain, so if you are looking to find out if brain chemistry is at least partially a culprit- a psychiatrist is a good place to start. Also you should see everyone you are able who you think might even possibly be anle to help you.

Hope is a theological virtue- we unlikely to attain heaven without it.
 
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I don't know what to say to you dear, but I'm with you in prayer and in your pain. Scripture tells us that when one member of the body is suffering, all members suffer. We are also told to mourn with those who mourn and rejoice with those that rejoice. And so I suffer with you; that is what compassion means. I, too, have a dog (puppy), Sofie, and I freak every time some little thing goes wrong. She recently just got a "hot spot" behind her ear. So I understand the close connection you feel to your dog. They are really more than just animals. I believe they were sent to us by God to be our companions and helpers. The role they fill in our lives is huge and to loose a companion pet is as devastating as any loss we can know. But I believe that there is a place in heaven for our wonderful, loyal pets. God does not create anything for destruction. His divine and perfect Will provides for the possibility that we could be reunited with our pets in eternity. The more I learn about the abilities that dogs have including premonitions, sensing and virtual mind-reading, the more convinced I am of the place they have in God's plan for us. I don't know if any of this rambling is of comfort to you at all, but I know that the pain you now feel is shared by many.:groupray: :hug: :cry:
 
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ShannonMcMorland said:
The Church disagrees- animals do not have immortal souls.

Heaven is full of creatures that don't have "immortal souls". It's like earth, only way better and completely perfect.
 
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Jesus'TroublesomeAngel said:
Oh man I have to Love myself first? Won't helping others just help me feel better about myself?

Ok...it's no secret I despise myself because no-one's ever liked me and I blame myself for that so how can I get out of that?
I have asked God to let me see me as He sees me.

Maybe you need to focus on something other than yourself, even nmore than you need to love yourself. Reading through your posts you seem to believe that every single bad thing that's ever happened in and around your life is you fault, and you need to be punished for it. Your are so totally focused on yourself, even your dog having cancer is a 'what have I done that my dog is dying'. It's like a circle that needs to be broken, and you are the only one who can break it, and you just do not seem willing to make the effort to break it.

Whilst bad things happen to everyone, it is up to us how we approach them. For most of us they are learning experiences and we grow through them, yet some people seem to get trapped inside them and take on the 'victim' mentality. In my walk with Christ he will put obstacles in my way. My choice is either to sit on the ground and cry about it, or to conquer the obstacle and continue the walk, but only I can make that decision, and I must have the strength.
 
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