they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world (the coming AGE)...

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Peace in Christ.

The children of this current evil age (not “world”) “marry” and are given in marriage.

This is like the saying that they are “married to the job”…only it applies to people who “marry” their churches and their church teachings, commandments of men, etc.

It is a “strange wife” that the children of this age are married to where there is only death. There is no age-lasting life of Jesus found among the churches of men where they are deceptively teaching many strange teachings that only lead to death. They do not preach the true gospel of Jesus Christ among them that are perishing away in their mortal bodies to the grave. We must not be joined together with them or we are then "one flesh" with them in their mortal destruction of the body.

Luke 20:34-36
(34) And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world (AGE) marry, and are given in marriage:

But those who are accounted worthy to obtain the AGE that is coming are resurrected from OUT of the dead ones.

They hear His voice and awaken and depart from the dead churches….from the dead people where there is no age-lasting (eternal) life.
They are resurrected OUT from among the “dead” people of the churches of men.

They will continue to live here in this age (in their mortal bodies) until the coming age as they will then have the "eternal" (age-lasting) life of Jesus.

(35) But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world (AGE), and the resurrection from (OUT) the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

Neither can they die any more as they will have taken hold of “eternal life”….that is, an age-lasting life in this present evil age. They will be accounted worthy to live (have an age-lasting life) to the coming age.

They are equal unto the “angels”….messengers…for they preach the true good news that comes down from Heaven.

(36) Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

These are they which are not defiled with “women”…..that is, WIVES. They are redeemed among men. They leave the dead churches of men where there is no life.

Rev 14:4-5 KJV
(4) These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.


And in their mouth is found no “guile”….no decoy “Jesus”. They preach the true gospel of Jesus Christ and not “another jesus” and another “gospel” that we all are currently hearing in every "church" gathering.

(5) And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

His wisdom shall deliver us from the “strange woman”.

Pro 2:10-22 KJV
(10) When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;
(11) Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:
(12) To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;
(13) Who leave the paths of uprightness, to walk in the ways of darkness;
(14) Who rejoice to do evil, and delight in the frowardness of the wicked;
(15) Whose ways are crooked, and they froward in their paths:
(16) To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words;
(17) Which forsaketh the guide of her youth, and forgetteth the covenant of her God.


Her “house” inclines unto death and her paths unto the dead.

(18) For her house inclineth unto death, and her paths unto the dead.

NONE that go unto “her” return again neither do they take hold of an age-lasting life. They do not go in right direction but the broad way that leads to their mortal death.

(19) None that go unto her return again, neither take they hold of the paths of life.
(20) That thou mayest walk in the way of good men, and keep the paths of the righteous.


The upright shall dwell in the “land”….that is, the earth….and the complete shall remain in it but the wicked shall be cut off from the earth and transgressors shall be rooted out of it.

(21) For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it.
(22) But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it.


Those who go to the churches of men are perishing away in their mortal bodies to the grave.

2Co 2:15-17 KJV
(15) For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:
(16) To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?


They are listening to the MANY who “corrupt”…that is, retail…the word of God. They are not hearing the true good news of Christ.

(17) For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
 

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context. That Luke 20 text is about the debate-against vs the proof-for of the future resurrection of the dead also retold in Matt 22.

First "the puzzle" posed by Sadducess who do not believe in a spirit, nor an immortal soul, nor a future bodily resurrection

Luke 20:
27 Then some of the Sadducees, who deny that there is a resurrection, came to Him and asked Him, 28 saying: “Teacher, Moses wrote to us that if a man’s brother dies, having a wife, and he dies without children, his brother should take his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. 29 Now there were seven brothers. And the first took a wife, and died without children. 30 And the second took her as wife, and he died childless. 31 Then the third took her, and in like manner the seven also; and they left no children, and died. 32 Last of all the woman died also. 33 Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife does she become? For all seven had her as wife.”

Now Christ's Answer

Luke 20:
34 Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; 36 nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. 37 But even Moses showed in the burning bush passage that the dead are raised, when he called the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ 38 For He is not the God of the dead but of the living, for all live to Him.”


Also in Matt 22:
31 But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” 33 And when the multitudes heard this, they were astonished at His teaching.
34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together.


Luke 20:
Now the response of the observing bystanders - the Pharisees and scribes
39 Then some of the scribes answered and said, “Teacher, You have spoken well.” 40 But after that they dared not question Him anymore.

==== HOW is it that Christ's statement "silenced" Sadducees who do not believe in a spirit, an immortal soul or a future resurrection?===

Is Christ's argument "There is need of a future resurrection since God is not the god of the dead - and God said He was the God of Abraham at a time when Abraham was dead?". Was He trying to find a good way to agree with Sadducees that a future resurrection is nonsense?

Hint: Rom 4:17 (KJV/NKJV( (as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”) in the presence of Him whom he believed—God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not (yet) exist as though they did; 18 who, contrary to hope, in hope believed, so that he became the father of many nations, according to what was spoken, “So shall your descendants be.”

Sadducees would fully accept Rom 4:17-18 "God calls those things that do not (yet) exist - as though they did" when it comes to God saying "I HAVE MADE you a father of MANY Nations" -

Christ's point is that since the Sadducees are correct that the Bible teaches - that God is not the God of the dead - then the only way the text in Exodus 3 where God speaks to Moses from the burning bush - can be true, is that God is speaking in regard to the future bodily resurrection of the dead - calling those things which do not yet exist "as though they did".

That silenced the Sadducees - they could not find a way out of it.

And it amazed the Pharisees who had been having this same debate for many years with Sadducees opposing them - in regard to the future resurrection of the dead.
 
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It’s very easy to take verses out of context in order to “prove” an argument.
You give a good example of one in the verse “God is not the God of the dead”.
The argument is that if God is not the God of the dead then all those faithful who have died are not dead. However, they miss the context that the verse is referring to the resurrection of the dead as is plainly stated.
So you are correct in that God is their God even though they are dead because there is to be a resurrection of the dead. In the eyes of God they are not dead but waiting in the grave for the resurrection to life eternal.
 
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It’s very easy to take verses out of context in order to “prove” an argument.
You give a good example of one in the verse “God is not the God of the dead”.
Amen to that
The argument is that if God is not the God of the dead then all those faithful who have died are not dead. However, they miss the context that the verse is referring to the resurrection of the dead as is plainly stated.
Amen to that --

31 But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.”
 
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Amen to that

Amen to that --

31 But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.”
In the same way God told Abraham that he was the father of a multitude before Abraham had any children. God calls things that are not yet as though they were.
 
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In the same way God told Abraham that he was the father of a multitude before Abraham had any children. God calls things that are not yet as though they were.
Indeed - the Rom 4 text in my prior post.
 
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