They need illegal aliens!!

[Stinker]

Well now, did you ever think you would see the day where companies would actually shut down so their illegal workers could go protest?

This is not just insanity at work here, it is also criminal and sinful:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/business/

 

[NHB_MMA]

Well, I certainly would voice my complaints to any company in my area I knew was accomadating this lawlessness.

 

[DiscoFrank]

yes, imagine supporting the alien, people will probably start supporting widows and orphans next.

 

[woman.at.the.well]

Well I wasn't able to find the article. But they did the same thing in the state I live in. I don't think any citizen has anything against immigrants as long as they are here legally. "Illegal" immigrants however . . .now that is another story.

As for companies shutting down in support of their immigrant workers, that is their right in this great country of the U.S.A.

 

[NHB_MMA]

yes, imagine supporting the alien, people will probably start supporting widows and orphans next.

Widows and orphans are among the poor that need our compassion. Immigrants are among the poor that need our compassion. Illegal aliens are criminals that too often send money out of the country, effectively devaluing our already plummeting dollar. America has an aging population and we need young, productive immigrants coming into the country. But I am outraged that a group of people simply jump the border through Mexico rather than wait through the legal process like the Europeans, Africans, Asians, etc. that seek to live here. And that doesn't even begin to address the security issue of middle-eastern terrorists trying to sneak in disguised as Mexicans and South Americans.

To compare aiding those lawbreakers to caring for orphans and widows insults the work of the church. It's time for those churches that openly call for aiding these criminals to lose their tax-exempt status. Whatever happened to the principle of obeying the law so long as it does not violate God's laws?

 

[NHB_MMA]

As for companies shutting down in support of their immigrant workers, that is their right in this great country of the U.S.A.

True, it is their right to go along with the protests if they choose, but it makes me wonder how many of their employees are on the books, by the book. Those companies should be investigated, IMO. I am also tired of greedy employers luring these people over here and ultimately keeping Americans from getting a good living wage.

 

[GraceLikeRainFallsDown]

yes, imagine supporting the alien, people will probably start supporting widows and orphans next.

I see you forgot to write the all important term ILLEGAL in front of the word alien.

I have not heard of any complaining about legal immigrants. Only the ones breaking the law.

 

[graysparrow]

Every person should be given a fair chance to enter a country legaly, till then I think it is a bit too harsh to call those who only want to work criminals.

 

[Monica02]

Some of these illegal immigrant protestors do not even want to allow other voices to be heard. A few of them were arrested yesterday at a Congragational Church who had a Minuteman (or someone similar) scheduled to speak. They protested outside (quite legal) but some had to be removed from the assembly inside. You should have seen them screaming at the speaker. What arrogance and nerve to think that they have a right to break our laws and interrupt meetings.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

Well now, did you ever think you would see the day where companies would actually shut down so their illegal workers could go protest?

This is not just insanity at work here, it is also criminal and sinful:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/business/

Report an Illegal Alien Employer

Wehirealiens.com

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

Widows and orphans are among the poor that need our compassion. Immigrants are among the poor that need our compassion. Illegal aliens are criminals that too often send money out of the country, effectively devaluing our already plummeting dollar. America has an aging population and we need young, productive immigrants coming into the country. But I am outraged that a group of people simply jump the border through Mexico rather than wait through the legal process like the Europeans, Africans, Asians, etc. that seek to live here. And that doesn't even begin to address the security issue of middle-eastern terrorists trying to sneak in disguised as Mexicans and South Americans.

To compare aiding those lawbreakers to caring for orphans and widows insults the work of the church. It's time for those churches that openly call for aiding these criminals to lose their tax-exempt status. Whatever happened to the principle of obeying the law so long as it does not violate God's laws?

The idea that we need "young workers" is about supporting the ponzi scheme of a socialist system, that will ultimately lead you to the third world abyss. This system requires ever greater numbers of workers, every generation, to support a smaller retired class. It is unsustainable, and it will bankrupt the country. It already is. I wouldn't be surprised to see America fall within my lifetime.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

Every person should be given a fair chance to enter a country legaly, till then I think it is a bit too harsh to call those who only want to work criminals.

I'm surprised you'd say that, considering your nation is turning into "Arabia-North", given the illegal invasion into Spain from northern Africa.

 

[graysparrow]

The "invasion" is the result of the world of abject poverty in which we believe. I we even pretended to be Christian they would not be dying in the atlantic ocean.

 

[GraceLikeRainFallsDown]

Every person should be given a fair chance to enter a country legaly, till then I think it is a bit too harsh to call those who only want to work criminals.

People are already given a fair chance to enter the country legally. I know friends that spent time and money to do it legally. With proper paperwork, they were allowed to work and go to school here until it was legal. They even purchased a home before their citizenship was finalized.

The people working and living here illegally are criminals. They have broken the law just as much as the person that steals from a store. They may not have "bad" intentions, but they are still breaking the law. In a way they do steal from our society. They get free medical when hard working Americans have to go into debt for the same treatment. They get a free education without paying taxes. They are draining our resources. Taking my money (thru tax dollars) illegally. I realize some say they do pay taxes, but I do not see how unless they have stolen a social security number.

You can have compassion for people and expect them to obey the laws of the land at the same time. We are not saying they as people are not welcome here. We are saying do it LEGALLY!

 

[graysparrow]

The biggest difference in the Employment Preferences is with jobs that require less than two years experience and those requiring two years or more experience. As an example, if a job requires at least two years experience, the person may go into Employment 3rd Preference and the case may take one to two years to complete, as an estimate. If the job requires less than two years experience, the applicant worker goes into a sub-section of the Employment 3rd called "Other Workers". A case in this category can be expected to take 10 years or more to complete because of the long waiting list for Other Workers.

http://www.lawcom.com/immigration/pdwtlst.shtml

I know it would relatively easy for people like me with a college degree and such, but that's the same in any country. However nor your country nor mine welcomes unskilled workers.

 

[Agape_]

This arguement is terrible in so many ways. On the one hand people are illegally immigrating into the country. On the other many of them are just trying to escape poverty and certain death which they would face by staying in their own country. The bible tells us we must offer aid to the alien in our midst so there is a clear voice that those aliens that want our help should recieve it. In this case then the American immigration system has failed. The american economy does need workers but they dont want to pay workers a fair wage so they hire illegal aliens, this perpetuates illegal immigration by creating traffic routes to these employers.

What must first happen is that laws should be enacted that force emplyoers to pay the same wages to illegal immigrants as they do to citizens which would destroy any incentive to hire them in the first place. Next the immigration system needs a reform to alow more people into a the country and stop creating so many roadblocks.

And to all those who are opposed to illegal immigrants labeling them as criminals, you need to visit some of the places these people are coming from and examine if you want your children growing up in disease infested slums. Why don't you have some compassion and if you are so opposed to illegal immigrants then why dont you shout to the government to send more aid to these countries to imrove their status of living or make donations to aid groups instead of complaining about something you dont understand.

 

[NHB_MMA]

Every person should be given a fair chance to enter a country legaly, till then I think it is a bit too harsh to call those who only want to work criminals.

Ideally, but the reality is that there is a finite amount of people we can support and that is needed to support our government programs. I favor a fair cross-sectional, diverse flow of immigrants into the U.S., not 5 million immigrants per year, with 4 million of them coming from one country.

 

[NHB_MMA]

This arguement is terrible in so many ways. On the one hand people are illegally immigrating into the country. On the other many of them are just trying to escape poverty and certain death which they would face by staying in their own country. The bible tells us we must offer aid to the alien in our midst so there is a clear voice that those aliens that want our help should recieve it. In this case then the American immigration system has failed. The american economy does need workers but they dont want to pay workers a fair wage so they hire illegal aliens, this perpetuates illegal immigration by creating traffic routes to these employers.

Their own countries are failing them. For example, Africa is not pour because it lacks natural resources. It has timber, iron ore, oil, etc. probably to a greater degree than we do. Had the American forefathers landed in Africa rather than North America and planted the idea of a representative republic, I have to wonder if "America" would not be even more technologically advanced than today. Africa is poor because the continent is full of tyrannical dictators that steal from the people. And I do agree the greedy employers bare a large amount of the responsibility and it's time to see some arrests.

What must first happen is that laws should be enacted that force emplyoers to pay the same wages to illegal immigrants as they do to citizens which would destroy any incentive to hire them in the first place. Next the immigration system needs a reform to alow more people into a the country and stop creating so many roadblocks.

Agreed, except they should pay an additional fine for hiring someone without the proper documentation. I do favor less hurdles in the immigration process, particularly for skilled workers and provided that we do enforce very strict regulations on individuals attempting to immigrate from states on the terror list.

And to all those who are opposed to illegal immigrants labeling them as criminals, you need to visit some of the places these people are coming from and examine if you want your children growing up in disease infested slums. Why don't you have some compassion and if you are so opposed to illegal immigrants then why dont you shout to the government to send more aid to these countries to imrove their status of living or make donations to aid groups instead of complaining about something you dont understand

Again, why are they disease infested slums? Because the rulers have taken everything for themselves and do not allow a real free market system in which individuals can better themselves.

The idea that sending more aide to such situations would be helpful is severely misguided. What needs to be done is for our government to cut off all aide and trade until such nations honor basic human rights that would help its people flourish. The last thing I'm in favor of is more deficit spending by sending more aide to nations where it will just be used by some warlord and his militia.

 

[NHB_MMA]

I see you forgot to write the all important term ILLEGAL in front of the word alien.

I have not heard of any complaining about legal immigrants. Only the ones breaking the law.

It's the way the media is portraying it. You hear news stories about "immigrant rights" not amnesty for "illegal aliens". It's a low attempt to frame the argument in such a context that you seem like a racist if you don't support such rallies, because the merits of their real arguments fail miserably.

 

[Agape_]

Their own countries are failing them. For example, Africa is not pour because it lacks natural resources. It has timber, iron ore, oil, etc. probably to a greater degree than we do. Had the American forefathers landed in Africa rather than North America and planted the idea of a representative republic, I have to wonder if "America" would not be even more technologically advanced than today. Africa is poor because the continent is full of tyrannical dictators that steal from the people. And I do agree the greedy employers bare a large amount of the responsibility and it's time to see some arrests.



Agreed, except they should pay an additional fine for hiring someone without the proper documentation. I do favor less hurdles in the immigration process, particularly for skilled workers and provided that we do enforce very strict regulations on individuals attempting to immigrate from states on the terror list.



Again, why are they disease infested slums? Because the rulers have taken everything for themselves and do not allow a real free market system in which individuals can better themselves.

The idea that sending more aide to such situations would be helpful is severely misguided. What needs to be done is for our government to cut off all aide and trade until such nations honor basic human rights that would help its people flourish. The last thing I'm in favor of is more deficit spending by sending more aide to nations where it will just be used by some warlord and his militia.

Your wrong most third world countries are like this because America and other western nations exploited them for natural resources and planted dictators that could be controlled by the american government. Trade systems that the US enforces forces many countries to export over 70% of its crop and minerals with the profits going to the heads of large multinational corporations or to the corrupt governments working with them. To blame the countries that illegal immigrants are coming from completly disregards the responsibility of the US for making the country what it is.