They Deserve a State ??

[cavell]

You might not know there is a civil war raging right now as the media is looking the other way. I'll explain why in a moment. Violence has reached new heights over the past few days, with running gun-battles taking place in Gaza hospitals, schools, mosques, and streets, between Hamas and Fatah thugs.

There are mutual assassination attempts directed against the leaders of the two groups. Gaza's real Christians are at risk as the local Baptist church has about 150 members who need your prayers.


As a result, total chaos reigns in Gaza, the land Israel surrendered not that long ago. Appeasement never works. I hope American leaders are taking notes. What we are witnessing is the meltdown of the Palestinian Authority as armed warlords battle each other for control and kill their own people without batting an eye.

And these folks deserve a state of their own??

These folks would live side by side in peace with Israel if they just had their own borders and international recognition??

Here's one reason the media looks the other way: Both violent elements as well as the victims are Palestinian and hence, the media cannot blame Israel.

One news source that at one time would give it major media time, Fox News, is absorbed with Paris Hilton and majoring in other minors.

So why should Israel turn over MORE control to the radicals? Because the world pressures them into doing so. Fatah and Hamas cannot even keep their own house in order, and use unspeakable acts of violence to settle their home-grown rivalries.
If and when this civil war winds down we find there is still a global effort to give these folks their "own homeland," and in the process, yank the land from Israel, I shudder to think of what kind of a scenario would develop.

If Israel caves and grants them their wishes, then the inmates are running the asylum.

God is in control, however. He uses such events for His purposes.

 

[gwynedd1]

You might not know there is a civil war raging right now as the media is looking the other way. I'll explain why in a moment. Violence has reached new heights over the past few days, with running gun-battles taking place in Gaza hospitals, schools, mosques, and streets, between Hamas and Fatah thugs.

There are mutual assassination attempts directed against the leaders of the two groups. Gaza's real Christians are at risk as the local Baptist church has about 150 members who need your prayers.


As a result, total chaos reigns in Gaza, the land Israel surrendered not that long ago. Appeasement never works. I hope American leaders are taking notes. What we are witnessing is the meltdown of the Palestinian Authority as armed warlords battle each other for control and kill their own people without batting an eye.

And these folks deserve a state of their own??

These folks would live side by side in peace with Israel if they just had their own borders and international recognition??

Here's one reason the media looks the other way: Both violent elements as well as the victims are Palestinian and hence, the media cannot blame Israel.

One news source that at one time would give it major media time, Fox News, is absorbed with Paris Hilton and majoring in other minors.

So why should Israel turn over MORE control to the radicals? Because the world pressures them into doing so. Fatah and Hamas cannot even keep their own house in order, and use unspeakable acts of violence to settle their home-grown rivalries.
If and when this civil war winds down we find there is still a global effort to give these folks their "own homeland," and in the process, yank the land from Israel, I shudder to think of what kind of a scenario would develop.

If Israel caves and grants them their wishes, then the inmates are running the asylum.

God is in control, however. He uses such events for His purposes.

I think you should concider that civil wars are often ignited by others. Israel has a history of playing both sides of a war. Israel is not alone, We joined them in the 80s by supplying both Iran and Iraq. This is well known. Olmert himself made an accusation against Netanyahu for even creating Hamas to counter wieght the PLO.
If you mean by rejecting appeasement that Christians should not be the voice of peace then I cannot agree. Those are the ways of the world. We cannot expect light from darkness so niether Israel nor Palistine will shed any light.

God Bless

 

[ContentInHim]

cavall, I am so grateful for this "civil war" because now they are not lobbing rockets into Israel. Instead they are killing eachother like animals.

GE 16:11 The angel of the LORD also said to her:
"You are now with child
and you will have a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,
for the LORD has heard of your misery.
GE 16:12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone's hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers."

Looks like that Angel of the Lord, who is also Jesus, prophesied correctly.

 

[gwynedd1]

cavall, I am so grateful for this "civil war" because now they are not lobbing rockets into Israel. Instead they are killing eachother like animals.



Looks like that Angel of the Lord, who is also Jesus, prophesied correctly.

We live in a country that had its own brutal civil war. You are condemning yourself as the son of animals. This is not the way.

- In Christ

- "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

 

[ContentInHim]

Fortunately, I am not of Ishmael. You may consider yourself to be, if you so desire.

 

[yod]

now they are not lobbing rockets into Israel. Instead they are killing eachother like animals.

Neither Hamas nor Fatah stopped lobbing bombs into Sderot. Actually they BOTH stepped it up to gain support from the terrorists they rule.


But I'm sure the jews are making them do that so the "giant jewish conspiracy to rule the world" won't be discovered. (oy?)

This is a broken record that christians shouldn't be parroting.

 

[ContentInHim]

Wow, yod - now that's something that's not being reported. And I haven't read my e-news in a bit. I get tired of the articles about Olmert who should have kept his day job.

 

[icedtea]

The media is not ignoring it, its on the news channels.
Its hardly a surprise.
No, they do not deserve a state.
Everything is planned out behind the scenes (in my opinion).
I can only sit back and watch and see what transpires.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[MezzaMorta]

Israel funded Hamas to counter PLO…. Look what happened. Go figure.

 

[yod]

Oh yea...the vast "zionist conspiracy to control the world" got Hamas (who is openly declaring and sworn to destroy Israel) to attack Fatah and now offers their leaders amnesty?

Why climb a tree to promote a lie when the truth is staring at you on the ground?


I don't doubt that Israel minds these bloodthirsty terrorist groups killing each other...but backing hamas?

The reports I see indicate they and the US are backing Fatah.

Oh yea,,,,I forgot...the "vast zionist conspiracy" is backing both sides of every war today and throughout history.

Oy!

 

[MezzaMorta]

Oh yea...the vast "zionist conspiracy to control the world" got Hamas (who is openly declaring and sworn to destroy Israel) to attack Fatah and now offers their leaders amnesty?

Why climb a tree to promote a lie when the truth is staring at you on the ground?


I don't doubt that Israel minds these bloodthirsty terrorist groups killing each other...but backing hamas?

The reports I see indicate they and the US are backing Fatah.

Oh yea,,,,I forgot...the "vast zionist conspiracy" is backing both sides of every war today and throughout history.

Oy!

It is a well known fact that Mossad and Shin Beht funded Hamas in the 80’s and eairly 90’s to support a counter to the PLO’s growing power. The Israeli prime minister just recently accused his predecessor of creating Hamas.

The US funded the terrorist that attacked the WTC on 9/11 and the Taliban when it was opportune to do so….. governments are not perfect. [FONT=&quot][/FONT]

 

[yod]

It is a well known fact that Mossad and Shin Beht funded Hamas in the 80’s and eairly 90’s to support a counter to the PLO’s growing power. The Israeli prime minister just recently accused his predecessor of creating Hamas.

It was probably a good idea at the time. Things change.

The US funded the terrorist that attacked the WTC

You're delusional.

 

[MezzaMorta]

[FONT=&quot] It was probably a good idea at the time. Things change.

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[FONT=&quot] Doesn’t change the fact that Hamas for all intensive purposes exists today to the strength it does because of Israel funding them. [/FONT]
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You're delusional.

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[FONT=&quot] Of course, go read up on the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan and the US support of Islamic resistance of that occupation. The men they funded and armed to fight the soviets are the same ones who created the group which flew those plans into those buildings. [/FONT]

 

[yod]

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[FONT=&quot]Doesn’t change the fact that Hamas for all intensive purposes exists today to the strength it does because of Israel funding them. [/FONT]



[FONT=&quot]Of course, go read up on the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan and the US support of Islamic resistance of that occupation. The men they funded and armed to fight the soviets are the same ones who created the group which flew those plans into those buildings. [/FONT]

In the 1980s they were fighting for the freedom of Afghans from an un-provoked Russian invasion. I see nothing wrong with supporting that. Things were different then.

By the 90s, they were only mercenary pirates seeking to impose sharia law on the entire world and subjugate the nation of Afghanistan to the taliban.

By 2001, all they want is the murder of 4 million americans (as stated in Osama's fatwah) and the overthrow of all nations who will not submit to Wahhabist islam

You know this yet purposely attempt to obfuscate the issue and blame America for the crimes of these terrorists

why is that?

 

[MezzaMorta]

60 years of short sighted foreign policy on the part of America in the Middle East.




As for 9/11, this is assuming that the people the government claim the hijackers were is true. There is enough compelling evidence to show that there is a lot more to the story than what CNN and the “President” tell us.

 

[yod]

60 years of short sighted foreign policy on the part of America in the Middle East.




As for 9/11, this is assuming that the people the government claim the hijackers were is true. There is enough compelling evidence to show that there is a lot more to the story than what CNN and the “President” tell us.

When a racist murders someone for their race, is it the victim's fault for being that race?

There is no justification for targeting unarmed civilians for murder. There were no other targets in the WTC.




Until you can prove that Osama is lying about Al Queda being behind the 911 attacks, we will have to take his word for it.

Again...how can it be that both Al Queda and the USA brought down the Twin Towers? Or is it the vast zionist conspiracy again?

 

[mont974x4]

In response to the OP, no they do not deserve a state, at least not on the ground the God gave to the Isrealites.

 

[ScottBot]

Play nice.​

 

[KarrieTex]

I have known about it and from Fox too.

I am curious to see what happens and if they are stupid enough to attack Israel which it seems they did this past weekend.

I would sit back and let them kill themselves and then come in and pick up the pieces.