There MUST be a Creator

[Raterus]

And here is why,

Study Biology, if you can tell me how life happened otherwise, go for it. Don't tell me there isn't a Creator unless you are willing to explain this. You don't have to accept the Christian "God", but when you try to explain away the immensity of how life works to a random occurance, you are only fooling yourself.

--Michael

 

[Alessandro]

Everything around has a design, and a design means there is a Designer.

 

[wblastyn]

And here is why,

Study Biology, if you can tell me how life happened otherwise, go for it. Don't tell me there isn't a Creator unless you are willing to explain this. You don't have to accept the Christian "God", but when you try to explain away the immensity of how life works to a random occurance, you are only fooling yourself.

--Michael

Take your own advice - study biology. Life from Non-life is abiogenesis, which is chemistry and is not random. Evolution is biology and works via Natural Selection, which is not random (random is the opposite of selective).

 

[wblastyn]

Everything around has a design, and a design means there is a Designer.

Natural Selection is the designer.

 

[Late_Cretaceous]

HI.

This forum is really for debating creationism vs evolutionary theory - not the existance of God (Unless you are making the mistake of equating athiesm with acceptance of evolution).

There are a few athiests who frequent this forum, but this is not really the forum to debate them on the existance of God.

I agree that God exists. I also understand that evolution is a reality - as do a majority of those who consider themselves Christians.


By the way, I doubt that there is anyone who thinks that life is a random occurance. Surely you are not suggesting that evolutionary theory proposes this are you?

 

[notto]

And here is why,

Study Biology, if you can tell me how life happened otherwise, go for it. Don't tell me there isn't a Creator unless you are willing to explain this.
--Michael

People used to say this about lightening (as well as a lot of other things).

This is called God of the Gaps theology. That which we can't understand (yet) must be attributed to God.

That might work well for a personal theology, but as the past has shown us, it doesn't work well as a scientific way to study nature.

 

[Alessandro]

God's natural selection.

 

[wblastyn]

God's natural selection.

Well I believe God created Natural Selection, so yes, it would belong to Him.

 

[Alessandro]

More like God's own natural selection as Creator and Designer.

 

[AndOne]

Natural Selection is the designer.

Prove it.

 

[wblastyn]

Prove it.

Science doesn't prove things, it falsifies them and so far no one has falsified evolution.

 

[wblastyn]

More like God's own natural selection as Creator and Designer.

Yes, God does own natural selection since he made it.

 

[AndOne]

People used to say this about lightening (as well as a lot of other things).

This is called God of the Gaps theology. That which we can't understand (yet) must be attributed to God.

That might work well for a personal theology, but as the past has shown us, it doesn't work well as a scientific way to study nature.

I disagree.

Lightening and Evolution are two seperate tenets of science. The OP suggested you study biology - which apparently you seem to be unwilling to do.

 

[Alessandro]

So we agree that God is the Creator.

 

[AndOne]

Science doesn't prove things, it falsifies them and so far no one has falsified evolution.

incorrect. but exactly the kind of answer I would expect from someone WHO HAS NO PROOF OR FACTS TO SUPPORT HIS CLAIM.

 

[wblastyn]

I disagree.

Lightening and Evolution are two seperate tenets of science. The OP suggested you study biology - which apparently you seem to be unwilling to do.

Hi, I study biology at university and notto's point is valid.

 

[wblastyn]

So we agree that God is the Creator.

Yes.

 

[wblastyn]

incorrect. but exactly the kind of answer I would expect from someone WHO HAS NO PROOF OR FACTS TO SUPPORT HIS CLAIM.

Just read the multitude of threads around here for evidence of evolution. Here, read this - http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

Btw, what is evolution?

 

[notto]

I disagree.

Lightening and Evolution are two seperate tenets of science. The OP suggested you study biology - which apparently you seem to be unwilling to do.

From my response, how did you come to the conclusion that I am unwilling to study biology.

From the OP, it looks like the poster is ready to give up and come to a premature conclusion. God did it. (Much like the ID movement would like mainstream science to do it would seem).

 

[revolutio]

Don't tell me there isn't a Creator unless you are willing to explain this.

Don't tell me there is a Creator unless you are willing to explain this.