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The response of Jesus when He was tempted of the devil in the wilderness Carl was "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." - Matthew 4:4. Scripture does not delete scripture if we are being led of the Spirit of God.
Judgement is for Jesus.
I guess this is the risk in the OP- Having enough faith in God to believe what He wrote and spoke so clearly, over what is popular (tradition) and that has no scripture of God’s authority blessing, making holy, sanctifying or being the holy day of the Lord thy God.
Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Revelation 14:6 7 He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.”
Isaiah 66:23 And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.
Do you think God’s will for us is to do the opposite of what He says?
Psalms 40:8 I delight to do Your will, O my God, And Your law is within my heart.”
There is no Sunday law in scripture but there is for Sabbath keeping spoken from our Creator and kept by Creator and Savior, as our example.
Are you ok with the idea of taking a given doctrine and its opposite and then discussing the "risk" for each when each one of those two options is found to be wrong. In other words "comparing risk" as is being asked of the atheist in example 1 of the OP???
If you have scripture stating that God transferred His holy Sabbath day to the first day, by all means share that. You made a claim the Sabbath scripture was "secret" but it's referenced over 160 times in your bible, and I quoted scripture written from the finger of God, stating the seventh day Sabbath is the holy day of the Lord thy God and the day God made holy for us. Exodus 20:8-11 You are free to disregard that as we all have free will, but since you have yet to share any scripture where it says God transferred His holy Sabbath day to another day, so that must be the secret scripture you were referring to.That's fine if you continue to ignore scripture that doesn't have a tidy fit with your position and push it to the degree that others come under false condemnation.
Please enjoy your sabbath keeping, and I will enjoy His Eternal Sabbath rest every day.
I agree and your point confirms my point.
Satan quoted SCRIPTURE.
The mere quoting of scripture gives us no guarantee that God's Word is being spoken or His Truth is being accurately represented...
If you have scripture stating that God transferred His holy Sabbath day to the first day, by all means share that. You made a claim the Sabbath scripture was "secret" but it's referenced over 160 times in your bible, and I quoted scripture from the finger of God, stating the seventh day Sabbath is the holy day of the Lord thy God and the day God made holy for us. Exodus 20:8-11 You are free to disregard that as we all have free will, but since you have yet to share any scripture where it says God transferred His holy Sabbath day to another day.
Take care.
Sadly, people spend more time trying to discredit God's holy day than they do trying to find any written scripture that says the first day is holy, blessed, or sanctified by God. God said all other days are working days, its sad that mainstream Christians would deem the most sacred day of the week on a day God said to work, over the day God asked us to Remember is blessed and the day God made holy.I would not be waiting too long for a response for scripture. There is none.
HAPPY SABBATH!
According to the scriptures (God's Word) the rebellious are all those who choose not to believe and follow what Gods' Word says (1 John 2:3-4)
It's true, we have different opinions, but I didn't quote my opinion, I quoted scripture and you quote opinions, that you did not back up with scripture.We have a different opinion on what is God's will for us.
We have a different opinion on what God is saying through scripture overall.
You have elevated the keeping of the Seventh day Sabbath to have a central bearing on judging whether we are saved.
It is no longer about what Jesus did, it is about keeping the law (which no one is capable of doing)
Please enjoy your walk with Him within the faith you have been given.
Please don't present legalisms that may bring the unwary into condemnation.
Have a great day.
I would not be waiting too long for a response for scripture. There is none.
HAPPY SABBATH!
I have only provided God's Word Carl that are not mine but Gods and according to the scriptures (Gods' Word), no one rests in Christ if they are living their lives in unbelief and sin according to Hebrews 3 and Hebrews 4. According to the scripture those who live in unbelief and sin are the wicked who are like the troubled sea that have no rest in Isaiah 57:20-21What you say Gos's Word says and what many others believe is in sharp contrast. By all means offer you opinions but please don't push it to the extent that the unwary come into false condemnation. Enjoy tour Saturday Sabbath keeping - I will enjoy His eternal Sabbath Rest every day.
I would say that claim is not true and would simply challenge you to prove your claims through the scriptures. Our opinions do not really mean much in God's eyes. Only God's Word is true according to Romans 3:4 and we should believe and follow them according to Acts of the Apostles 5:29. There is no scripture anywhere in the bible that says God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. This is simply a man-made teaching and tradition that is leading many away from God and His Word that Jesus warns us about in Matthew 15:3-9. Jesus says if we follow man-made teachings that lead us to break Gods' commandments we are not worshiping God here so this begs the question if we are not worshiping God who are we worshiping; God or man and if we are not worshiping God what is the risk we are facing?Many have offered alternative scriptures and understandings - your claim is not truthful.
It's true, we have different opinions, but I didn't quote my opinion, I quoted scripture and you quote opinions, that you did not back up with scripture.
Psalms 40:8 I delight to do Your will, O my God, And Your law is within my heart.”
I would say that claim is not true and would simply challenge you to prove your claims through the scriptures. Our opinions do not really mean much in God's eyes. Only God's Word is true according to Romans 3:4 and we should believe and follow them according to Acts of the Apostles 5:29. There is no scripture anywhere in the bible that says God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. This is simply a man-made teaching and tradition that is leading many away from God and His Word that Jesus warns us about in Matthew 15:3-9.
You might want to take the warning in Hebrews about not receiving the rest in Christ by disobeying, the gospel rest does not delete the 4th commandment as shown in Hebrews 4.What you say Gos's Word says and what many others believe is in sharp contrast.
By all means offer you opinions but please don't push it to the extent that the unwary come into false condemnation.
Enjoy tour Saturday Sabbath keeping - I will enjoy His eternal Sabbath Rest every day.
Perhaps you may need to take your own advice here Carl?Many have including myself but our offerings are sadly falling on deaf ears.
I would say Romans 2:1-12 are interesting scriptures. I do not agree you have backed up your opinion with scripture. So I guess we will agree to disagree here.I have backed up my opinions in the past with scripture but you have dismissed them as they don't align with the inspiration of you denominational spirit.
You made a claim the Sabbath scripture was "secret"
It is interesting that according to the scriptures, the followers of Jesus (the few) were considered a minor sect and Jesus of the devil (by the many). Yet he was the promised Messiah that came unto His own and His own received Him not. I wonder what the risk of those who rejected Christ and His Word would be?No I didnt - I said the opposite - that He would not let a central truth be understood by one minor sect while all others were condemned for not understanding and acting on it.
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