There is no reason to discuss "facts"

[Landon Caeli]

I wonder why the philosophy forum has to be closed. Is it because our society has lost its ability to appreciate ideas, over matter?

I have a lot of questions! This is who I am.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Why do you hate philosophy so much?

There is an entire branch of philosophy devoted to determining how (if possible) we know things are true (i.e. that something is a fact).

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I wonder why the philosophy forum has to be closed. Is it because our society has lost its ability to appreciate ideas, over matter?

I have a lot of questions! This is who I am.

Something to consider, Landon, is that there are different forms of Philosophy, and these different forms also have different presuppositions and different goals as a part of their structure.

But even so, as a philosopher myself, one central, very personal concern of mine is over the issue of whether or not the birth of Jesus of Nazareth as a real flesh and blood person is historically a "fact," and I have to wrestle my own felt predilections when I encounter anyone who has a knee-jerk reaction against this fact. And I would tend to downplay their irritation and think to myself, "Why the heck does this bother him/her?"

On the other hand, I can understand where you're grievance could come in philosophically if I were to then get into a discussion about whether or not an unverifiable event like the Resurrection of Jesus Christ can be, or should be, seen as a historical "fact"; I'd like to have the safety zone of being able to express my view without being roundly castigated by someone for my thinking that the Resurrection is a "fact" and that it's important to me emotionally for seeing it as a "fact" .........

If we REALLY wanted to get our feet wet into the tangibleness of your OP topic, I suppose we'd need a topic that we can't talk about, like the efficacy of the Covid vaccine, for example. Now, THAT issue would fit very well with your suggestion that we learn to be willing to listen better to each other, Landon, despite what various people claim are the "facts."

 

[Robban]

The whole of Jewish history consists of facts, hundreds and hundreds well documented, so there is not so much

to discuss.

Just to study and learn, and be inspired.

God communicates with mankind through prophesy, around 2,300 years ago prophesy departed from Israel

and a lesser form took its place, divine inspiration.

It is possible to be directed by divine inspiration without having facts to back it up.

 

[Richard T]

Just imagine how nice it will be once those Haitians are gone.

Also, just because you don't realise that they are doing voodoo doesn't mean that they do. Everyone knows that they do voodoo.

Why do you pretend that you don't know that they do voodoo?

Yes, i know some some Haitians do Voodoo. That should not present any problems for Christians. The Haitians are not going anywhere. About 731,000 here, the 15th largest immigrant group. As their crime is less than natural born Americans, I am happy to have them as neighbors. Haitian immigration to America as of 2023, by the numbers