theologically conservative forum

[Blank123]

how long does it usually take for a higherup to acknowledge these threads?

 

[MoNiCa4316]

I agree with this idea too I'd join a forum like that.

 

[ProfessorMom]

i know there is already a Conservative Christian forum but considering how that one is interchangeable with conservative politics i would like to request a forum, or perhaps a subforum within the CC community for those of us who are conservative in our theology yet do not fit in with the conservative political group.

As it stands now those of us who would otherwise benefit from fellowship with other theologically conservative Christians are feeling quite ostracized for the mere fact that we do not adhere to political conservatism. It would be nice for us to have a place to fellowship without having to contend with politics or fear of being made to feel unwelcome because of our political views.

thanks

little_tigress, this process can sometimes take time. I want to ask some questions so I have a more full understanding.

You are looking for a political forum for those members who don't fit conservative politics, is that correct?

You want this to be housed in CC?

Would CC members respect a thread that was started for those members whose political leaning aren't conservative and refrain from posting therein?

In other words, do members of CC believe that their politics must also be conservative?

Is CC known for having/allowing political threads in their congregation forum?

Who do you wish to allow to post?

Who do you wish to exclude?

What would you name such a forum?

I'll return in a day to a few days to read your answers.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

Hiya, PMom Is it ok if I answer, too? CC is my home forum, so maybe I can explain a little? Whereas LT can explain how she felt as a new poster there and maybe combined it'll give the whole picture

little_tigress, this process can sometimes take time. I want to ask some questions so I have a more full understanding.

You are looking for a political forum for those members who don't fit conservative politics, is that correct?

Noooo, quite the opposite. A theologically conservative forum for people who put more stock in faith than politics. I don't think we want the forum to be conservative theologically and politically liberal, at all. But demeanor is often tied into politics more than theology, I think, and those of us who aren't especially right wing politically can often feel very unwelcome in CC. I certainly have, and I know other long-term CC members have. So for a new person coming in, it is a really unwelcoming environment, and it's not what CC was created to be

You want this to be housed in CC?

No... we're sort of the less "aggressive" people, and I think if it were in CC, we'd still be over-run and "shouted down" by the more debatey people. I don't want it to sound like am blaming anyone, or saying we're right and someone is wrong - it's just the two approaches don't really go together. It's not that one is right and the other is wrong - both have elements of both, for sure, but it doesn't make for a great place to hang out. Some people invariably feel slightly bullied, and others feel they're being judged for feeling the way they do about political issues. Tisn't nice for either group, I don't think.

Would CC members respect a thread that was started for those members whose political leaning aren't conservative and refrain from posting therein?

Not even in theory.

In other words, do members of CC believe that their politics must also be conservative?

It was never that way in the beginning, never. Then it went through all that horridness last year and eventually became barren. It's been increasingly busy since about August and the elections made it *hugely* polemical. I know the elections have finished now, but it highlighted a big divide between us. I saw lots of "You're liberal!" aimed at LT because she's not politically aggressive and foreceful when, in fact, she's about as theologically conservative as it gets.

Somehow the dynamic in CC has become unless you agree with a few people's politics (lovely people, too; really, really very lovely... but we don't and can't agree on the world), you're a liberal and you're unwelcome. People like MrJim and Criada and I aren't put through the wringer because - actually, both of them tend to only step foot in there slighly now - but we were there from day one, long before the more political members, and we tend not to argue with them or make things angsty, so I think we're a part of the furniture? But LT was treated badly (I don;t think intentionally, but it still happened), so having somewhere where we can worship God and discuss traditional Christianity from a faith perspective as opposed to a wordly political one would be wonderful.

Is CC known for having/allowing political threads in their congregation forum?

Increasingly so, yeah and with Obama in office (or soon to be), I can't see that stopping now.

Who do you wish to allow to post?

For fellowship, anyone and everyone... but for debate purposes, only those who share the faith values as the members of CC. Same FSGs theologically, but no calling people out for not being conservative politically.

Who do you wish to exclude?

Not a soul on this earth - which is what CC was initially supposed to be.

What would you name such a forum?

Conservative Faith? Something like that, maybe. I know it's probably a lot to ask, cos there's already CC, but I really think this could be a lovely forum if it were created, and CC has sort of morphed into something else, and forums grow and develop organically and it's completely not anyone's fault, *at all* and there's no blame to hand out... it's just, we need a home here, really, and CC isn't it anymore.

I'll return in a day to a few days to read your answers.

Thank you, sissy

LT, sorry if I stepped on your toes in answering! If I got any answers wrong, please please tell me and I'll edit it out

 

[Altalia Slosky]

I guess this more or less applies to me. On *most* things, I'm theologically conservative (but there are exceptions, like my view on queerness)... and likewise... On *most* political things, I'm liberal (the main exception being abortion).

Wow this sounds like it could have been written by me -- That is exactly what I believe. I didn't know there were so many theologically conservative/political liberal Christians out there. I would support and post in such a forum.

 

[MrJim]

Nice job GM

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

Wow this sounds like it could have been written by me -- That is exactly what I believe. I didn't know there were so many theologically conservative/political liberal Christians out there. I would support and post in such a forum.

Aye, and it describes me too, except that I'm theologically conservative and politically libertarian.

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

Nice job GM

Agreed. I endorse GM's answers, which cover the situation at CC very well.

 

[Blank123]

actually GM covered it pretty well but for clarification's sake i'll answer as well

You are looking for a political forum for those members who don't fit conservative politics, is that correct?

No, I am requesting a forum specifically for those who adhere to conservative theology to be able to fellowship with one another without having to fear about the divisive nature that politics bring into things.

You want this to be housed in CC?

No. When i created this thread i was open to the idea of a subforum but now i don't think that would work. GM is right, creating it as a subforum would very likely attract others who just want to debate or possibly even cause trouble. I believe the best solution over all to keeping the peace is to create an entirely new forum in Faith Groups and start fresh

Would CC members respect a thread that was started for those members whose political leaning aren't conservative and refrain from posting therein?

I have no reason to believe they would. Politics is such an overwhelming influence in that forum its at the point where its impossible for a thread to exist without some sort of political argument starting and every member posting in there is expected to conform to the majority political view. Even just in the thread i created in CC to make others aware of my suggestion, i had one person questioning how it was possible to even be conservative in theology without adhering to conservative politics (a common point of view in there) and i had to remind people twice it wasn't a political thread and to take all political discussion to another thread.


In other words, do members of CC believe that their politics must also be conservative?

more and more I am convinced that the majority of members in that forum only want to discuss matters with people who adhere to their political system. There is a lot of questioning even of someone's own religious/theological standing if someone shows that they do not agree with conservative politics.

Who do you wish to allow to post?

GM had it right on. for fellowship purposes anyone and everyone would be welcome. For debates, it'd probably be less chaotic and stressful for everyone if only conservatives were allowed to debate, though I think FSRs would be required to curb political discussion so we would be able to avoid creating the same environment that currently exists in the CC forum.


Who do you wish to exclude?

Only trolls

What would you name such a forum?

I think I'd like to borrow from GM's suggestion and put forward Conservative Faith & Theology as a possible title since its clearcut and spells out exactly what the point of the forum is

I'll return in a day to a few days to read your answers.

Thanks so much!

 

[WannaWitness]

This idea would be marvelous. I believe strongly that morals are important (including anti-abortion and anti-gay), but as far as politics go, every party has agendas that are "immoral", and there is more to it than just those two issues. I say there is no such thing as a "Christian" party. Therefore, I usually don't like to mix politics with Christianity. Politics are some people's cup of tea. Not mine.

 

[ProfessorMom]

Okay, I get it now.

Thank you little_tigress, and everyone else who helped me understand.

I will return in a few more days. I like the idea and I notice another advisor likes the idea. I will likely discuss this with little_tigress via pm which usually helps once the idea gets rolling.

Thank you everyone.

 

[meh]

Ok, in the interest of trying to bring some peace here we've done a thread clean-up from this post on. That doesn't mean every post was a violation. But ProfMom makes the new forums and has posted here she'll return when she's ready.