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<blockquote data-quote="Quid est Veritas?" data-source="post: 74377914" data-attributes="member: 385144"><p>That if we assert Uniformitarianism and Empiricism on axiomatic grounds, that does not actually say anything about Morality at all. You'd need further axioms to decide for any pronouncement on the nature of Morality, such as assering Naturalistic Materialism say, or Idealism of some sort, or some other structure of Intersubjectivity.</p><p></p><p></p><p>True, but neither can we say Empiricism is valid because we have a strong intuition to trust our senses. In fact, we have reason not to; especially on Empiric grounds, when ultimately it looks like what we are perceiving is essentially not the 'real' thing, but a mediated and mentally altered image thereof. So asserting Morality is a more basic intuition, akin to trusting your eyes perhaps. Thing is, we can't be sure of absolutely anything - the five tropes of Agrippa the Sceptic always apply, as I said earlier in this thread. Everything can be doubted, but at some point you must draw an epistemologic line in the sand. </p><p></p><p>Our empiric reasoning expects us to trust in non-corporal, and frankly unknown entities like 'energy' or 'force' or 'quantum waveform' that we can't explicate well too, and have to determine inductively and intuitively to account for our sensory qualia. It really is a situation of people in glass houses throwing stones, I'd say. </p><p></p><p></p><p>You should read up a bit. It isn't as animalistic. There is a decided tendency of an 'aught to act' which is universal - not merely for me and my own. I have attached an infant study which you might find interesting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quid est Veritas?, post: 74377914, member: 385144"] That if we assert Uniformitarianism and Empiricism on axiomatic grounds, that does not actually say anything about Morality at all. You'd need further axioms to decide for any pronouncement on the nature of Morality, such as assering Naturalistic Materialism say, or Idealism of some sort, or some other structure of Intersubjectivity. True, but neither can we say Empiricism is valid because we have a strong intuition to trust our senses. In fact, we have reason not to; especially on Empiric grounds, when ultimately it looks like what we are perceiving is essentially not the 'real' thing, but a mediated and mentally altered image thereof. So asserting Morality is a more basic intuition, akin to trusting your eyes perhaps. Thing is, we can't be sure of absolutely anything - the five tropes of Agrippa the Sceptic always apply, as I said earlier in this thread. Everything can be doubted, but at some point you must draw an epistemologic line in the sand. Our empiric reasoning expects us to trust in non-corporal, and frankly unknown entities like 'energy' or 'force' or 'quantum waveform' that we can't explicate well too, and have to determine inductively and intuitively to account for our sensory qualia. It really is a situation of people in glass houses throwing stones, I'd say. You should read up a bit. It isn't as animalistic. There is a decided tendency of an 'aught to act' which is universal - not merely for me and my own. I have attached an infant study which you might find interesting. [/QUOTE]
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