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Theistic Evolution makes Judgment and Sin feel distant and less real

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The location of the garden of Eden is unknown...as there was no Mesopotamia region prior to the world wide flood of Noah.
 
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The location of the garden of Eden is unknown...as there was no Mesopotamia region prior to the world wide flood of Noah.

yes, that is why the term "lets say" is in there. Obviously the location of the Garden isn't important, nor the point of the post (which you just avoided in this reply of yours), the point is how does the first day work for a globe sphere.
 
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I'm not understanding your argument...it makes no sense.

Perhaps you could elaborate.
 
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I agree that's what that would mean. Theistic evolution Christians haven't thought through on the issue.
 
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Maybe I'll say it in terms you understand...can you provide the equation for a miracle?

No I can't with all of them but the universe itself is a miracle and we actually can read it through Physics.

Also, I understood what you are asking but it's a ridiculous question to ask, because it is challenging that what i said about equations being shown.
So, if i don't find or know any equations behind miracles does that mean that i'm wrong about the laws in our universe being readable?lol
 
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I'm not understanding your argument...it makes no sense.
LOL. I've had this argument in every post i've made since I started in this thread, which you've ignored, so please do not play the "i don't understand" game so you can continue avoiding it.
 
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Did God tell you that or did Man?
 
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We can argue whether the final editor of Genesis intended us to take it as history. I think likely he didn’t. But Paul seems to have, and in that he was simply wrong.

Well at least you've revealed what you believe about the scriptures and the writings of Paul being inspired by God. Apparently you don't believe they were. I think most Christians though will side in with Peter's defence of Paul. 2 Peter 3:15. I do as well.
 
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2 Peter simply says Paul had wisdom. This is no stronger than the common 2 Tim 3:16 statement that Scripture is inspired in the sense of being useful.

Paul dealt with important questions about the relationship between Christianity and Judaism. He did so wisely. That doesn't make him an expert on everything.
 
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God did not tell you anything because if he did it would not be refuted by evidence. It's just so you, using God to be on the side of your views.
Not really. My point is what did God ACTUALLY SAY in the Bible? Have you ever stopped to consider that if the evolutionary creation of man was actually true why wouldn't God have described it that way? I mean he could have just as easily have done so right? So why didn't he? Maybe that's something a lot of people haven't given much thought?
 
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No one denies physics...

Creation was a miracle....you deny the miracle and exchange it for the physics of chance.
 
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LOL. I've had this argument in every post i've made since I started in this thread, which you've ignored, so please do not play the "i don't understand" game so you can continue avoiding it.
Whatever...it has something to do with day and night....If I've ignored it, it's because it never made sense.
 
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You are assuming what you are trying to prove, that God wrote Genesis. The person who wrote it didn’t know modern astronomy or biology, so your rhetorical questions make no sense.
 
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You are assuming what you are trying to prove, that God wrote Genesis. The person who wrote it didn’t know modern astronomy or biology, so your rhetorical questions make no sense.

The person who wrote it understood evolutionism is impossible. It's not how God made mankind.
 
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Whatever...it has something to do with day and night....If I've ignored it, it's because it never made sense.
Of course, if you believe the entire creation literal, how else are you going to handle questions about factual things such as time zones other than refusing to understand it?

You just don't have an answer for it.
 
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Because the Bible is not a book of science, He did not inspire others to reveal him not evolution, the 9 planets, physics, gravity, etc. As man grew in knowledge we then saw the greater brilliance of God as a creator and as a designer which is why we accept the facts about evolution, because we don't see it as contradicting creation but just revealing more about how much of a master designer God is.
 
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Nope. Sorry but you're just wrong. They understood the Hebrew word 'ôlām, meaning an indefinitely long period of time of greater or lesser extent.

The terms express especially the notion of the duration of time in which one generation succeeds another (Eccl 1.4) or indefinite periods of time long since past (Jos 24.2) and thus come to mean age (Ez 26.20). Moreover, 'ôl ām and αἰών come to take on the more precise meaning of eternity or unlimited, endless time in some passages in which Yahweh is said to live "from of old" (mê-‘ôlām ), as one generation succeeds another. He is "the everlasting God" (’ēl 'ôlām: Gn 21.33). He swears "As I live forever…" (l e 'ôlām: Dt 32.40). The The eternal King (melek 'ôlām: Jer 10.10) is, in the later, deuterocanonical books, He who lives forever (hê-' 'ôlām: Dn 12.7; Sir 18.1).

Aeon (in the Bible) | Encyclopedia.com

So they could have used olam, (indefinite periods of time) but chose to use the word, yō·wm meaning day with all the insinuation that it was referring to our basic 24 hour period, sun rising, sunset, morning and night.
 
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