Get real. You actually pretend to know that the rules of genetics did not apply in the newly created world, however old the world is. This thread is simply getting ridiculous. You are not the first from St. Tikhon's that has espoused such views. It really makes me wonder what they teach there.
Get real. You actually pretend to know that the rules of genetics did not apply in the newly created world, however old the world is. This thread is simply getting ridiculous. You are not the first from St. Tikhon's that has espoused such views. It really makes me wonder what they teach there.
I'm writing a paper this week on whether evolutionary theory is incompatible with a christian doctrine of creation. I'll share my thoughts when I've finished, if anyone's interested in hearing them.
Could God have created other people for that first-born generation to marry or did He allow them to marry some early hominids that maybe weren't "soulfully" human but were genetically close enough to permit interbreeding?
If He made others not related to Adam and Eve did he create them as fallen or did they become fallen when Adam fell? To me, THIS seems more like mental gymnastics than explaining how siblings from a near-perfect gene pool could produce children with very few genetic defects.
This has been a very educational thread for me. Thanks to all who are participating, it is a testament to Christian love that a thread on such a controversial issue could make it to 30 pages without getting locked or at the very least require some mod cleaning action. I love all you guys and feel both humbled and blessed to be in your virtual presence. Please forgive me for any lack of charity I may have shown in any of my posts.
I'm writing a paper this week on whether evolutionary theory is incompatible with a christian doctrine of creation. I'll share my thoughts when I've finished, if anyone's interested in hearing them.
In this way of thinking, you wouldn't think of the other hominids as being people at all, in the way we mean of ourselves. They could not be thought of as fallen or un-fallen, except in the way creation as a whole is fallen. I can't imagine that they would be moral beings at all - smart maybe, but without awareness of God. The offspring which came from the unions would, however, be people with souls.
I've always thought he seemed like such a nice guy. There is something friendly about pudgy fellows.
but if God was just gonna take those unsouled hominids and completely replace them with souled humans, why did He create them in the first place, just to breed them out? and why is there no ancient theological record of such creatures? and I have a bit of a problem with saying that Christ has heritage in anything other than full humanity or His Father.
OTOH, I have my first and probably most significant spiritual revelation reading him. And Stephen Hawkins. God works mysteriously, that is for sure.
How? Aquinas is so legal, so precise and he leaves no room for any faith because he has explained everything!
I was trying to understand the proofs for the existence of God, for an essay I had to write for school. Eventually I gave up and decided to read something different (Hawkings) and I suddenly realized that God must exist outside of time. Poof. Religion suddenly became a possibility.
Thomas I think of as a very thorough thinker. But I always think of him also in his personal life, where he seems to have been a really good monk, a kind man, and determined.I think in a modern age he might have been a computer geek.
I suppose I still feel a lot of room for faith even with the kind of precision Thomas writes with. The most basic things; is the world rational and understandable; did God really do this thing for us; does God love me? are still matters of faith.
I wouldn't say he is the theologian who really influenced me the most, or even that I most enjoy reading, but I like him, as much as I can like someone dead almost a thousand years.
He is so thorough and precise in his defining everything that he leaves no room for faith.
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