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Theater thing is getting on my nerves

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Touche, Sophia.

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You condemn the theater, Jon, but you play GTA. No offense, but you are contradicting yourself.

I asked because of something that Jon had posted previously in another thread. I do think it is inconsistent to condemn going to a movie theater as something that you wouldn't want to be caught doing when Jesus comes back while continuing to play video games that glorify immoral and/or violent behavior. Anyway, Jesus sees what we're doing all the time, not just when He comes.

I was taught when I attended Adventist elementary schools that if people entered a movie theater, their guardian angels had to wait outside. I never believed it. I believe that we should be careful about our entertainment choices, but I don't think there's anything wrong with going to a theater to see the same movie that you would rent and watch at home when it comes out on video.
 
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My post:

Is "entertainment" Biblical?

I think EGW spoke on the difference between entertainment and recreation.

If Christ were to burst the clouds, would you want to be found at the cinema being entertained?

These are questions one needs to consider.



Jon

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Entertainment is not bad in itself. It can only be bad when it effects your walk in Christ and is immoral. Anything can effect your walk in Christ, it doesn't have to be a theater. You condemn the theater, Jon, but you play GTA. No offense, but you are contradicting yourself.

I asked because of something that Jon had posted previously in another thread. I do think it is inconsistent to condemn going to a movie theater as something that you wouldn't want to be caught doing when Jesus comes back while continuing to play video games that glorify immoral and/or violent behavior. Anyway, Jesus sees what we're doing all the time, not just when He comes.

I'm struggling to find where I 'condemned' going to the cinema. I said these are questions we need to consider.


Jon
 
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What if Jesus came back when you were talking badly against a fellow church member? What if Jesus came back when you were puting down a fellow walker in Christ. Or what if you were in the theater, not doing anything wrong, just watching a movie. These are good questions to consider. But aren't the above a little worse than the last option.
 
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Wow, this is my biggest thread yet. Anyway, I still hold to my statement that it matters what you watch, not where you watch it. Unless, you decide to rephrain from all movies in the theater or not, which is your own personal decision.
 
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Some Adventist still think we should not go to the movie theater. That is very unreasonable. Back in Ellen White's day, theaters was were prostitutes hung out so that is why she spoke against it. What matters is what movies you see not where you see them. Let's say you don't watch a movie like say Pirates of the Carribean at the theater, but you wait until it comes out to rent. All a theater is is a big T.V. True you can't fastford a movie at a theater but still.
Although I will admit to not practising what I preech at the moment (Plans to in the future, though)...I think that movies, unless 'only' Christian content in full nature, shouldn't be watched no matter where you are. Goes for tv and books, too. (Unless it is to understand another point of view, which can be useful).

I tend to decide if something is appropriate by this simple thought process: If Jesus was standing beside me, physically, would I do/say/listen/watch/wear this specific thing with Him?

If the answer is not a clear yes, then there is some form of sin in it. :)

Sarah
 
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Hi Mankin,

You said:
"Wow, this is my biggest thread yet."
Do I detect a bit of ego, pride, here (motive)?
"Anyway, I still hold to my statement that it matters what you watch,..."
ABSOLUTELY TRUE!
"...not where you watch it."
ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE!

"Unless, you decide to rephrain from all movies in the theater or not, which is your own personal decision."
BEST CHOICE!


Respectfully, your brother in Christ,
Doc
 
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Hi Sarah,

You are to be commended for making a very wise observation. You said:
"Although I will admit to not practising what I preech at the moment (Plans to in the future, though)...I think that movies, unless 'only' Christian content in full nature, shouldn't be watched no matter where you are. Goes for tv and books, too. (Unless it is to understand another point of view, which can be useful).
Remember; Today is the first day of the rest of your life. If a decision is worth making, make it today.


"I tend to decide if something is appropriate by this simple thought process: If Jesus was standing beside me, physically, would I do/say/listen/watch/wear this specific thing with Him?
If the answer is not a clear yes, then there is some form of sin in it." :)
Well said Sarah!!!


Respectfully, your brother in Christ,
Doc
 
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I talked with a man in Yahoo chat a few times that had been addicted to pornography. He was a pastor.

He told me that he justified it for many years (to himself) that he wasn't lusting after other women, he was just lusting after IMAGES of other women.

He said that even though there was a lot in scripture about not fornicating or committing adultery, there wasn't a word about not WATCHING it.

He finally realized that it was wrong to watch pornography (before I ever started chatting with him), and that he couldn't justify it anymore.

Psalms 101:3 I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

The bible isn't going to say "don't watch pornography or get addicted to the computer" in those exact words. You have to apply common sense and biblical principles to any modern-day problem.

If the people in a movie are fornicating or killing people or swearing....they may just be "pretending" (lying), but it's still the overall message that is damaging.

If it's evil to do then it's evil to watch with interest.

That's my two cents.
 
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Hi Mankin,

You said:Do I detect a bit of ego, pride, here (motive)?ABSOLUTELY TRUE! ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE!
BEST CHOICE!

Respectfully, your brother in Christ,
Doc
No, i do not have a big ego with this thread. Supply evidence to this claim that where you watch it is absolutely untrue.
 
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Although I will admit to not practising what I preech at the moment (Plans to in the future, though)...I think that movies, unless 'only' Christian content in full nature, shouldn't be watched no matter where you are. Goes for tv and books, too. (Unless it is to understand another point of view, which can be useful).

I tend to decide if something is appropriate by this simple thought process: If Jesus was standing beside me, physically, would I do/say/listen/watch/wear this specific thing with Him?

If the answer is not a clear yes, then there is some form of sin in it. :)

Sarah

Don't call something sinful just because it has a few wrong things in it. We need to be careful what we watch yes.
 
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So we should not do anything at all? We should just go for walks and read our Bibles and not watch anything secular? I don't mean to offend or attack, but I do not think God has anything against a little entertainment.
 
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How, the oldcountrydoc, is that the BEST CHOICE. Does it make people closer to God? Does it really help or not? I would find myself bored a lot of the time if I did not have a T.V. or music or any kind of entertainment. Remember, an idle mind can be used by the Devil.
 
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How, the oldcountrydoc, is that the BEST CHOICE. Does it make people closer to God? Does it really help or not? I would find myself bored a lot of the time if I did not have a T.V. or music or any kind of entertainment. Remember, an idle mind can be used by the Devil.

Do you think you could find enjoyment in giving Bible studies? I submit you can.
 
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Yes, I can find enjoyment in Bible studies. In fact, I find them very interesting. That does not mean I spend all my time doing that. In the end, you have to have a secular activity that you do or else you will go insane. The theater can be a good place to witness.
 
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Yes, I can find enjoyment in Bible studies. In fact, I find them very interesting. That does not mean I spend all my time doing that.

I am talking about actually giving Bible studies, as in being a Bible worker for your church.

I don't think you would ever get bored doing this line of work.

The theater can be a good place to witness.

Yeah, witness what your watching on the screen! LOL...
 
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Yes, I can find enjoyment in Bible studies. In fact, I find them very interesting. That does not mean I spend all my time doing that. In the end, you have to have a secular activity that you do or else you will go insane. The theater can be a good place to witness.

It COULD be a good place to witness, but I seriously doubt if that's why anyone goes there.

In fact, in order to witness to someone, they have to be willing to listen, otherwise you're doing more harm than good.

If they've gone to the movies to see a film about adultery or murder, etc. I don't really think they're in the mindset to hear about God.

It's worth a shot though.
 
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I am talking about actually giving Bible studies, as in being a Bible worker for your church.

I don't think you would ever get bored doing this line of work.



Yeah, witness what your watching on the screen! LOL...
I don't want to become a Bible worker. I have other lines of work that I am thinking about. I am seriously thinking about becoming a writer and I am currently working on a book. Well, you can have advertisements for your church shown in the theater, or you could pass out tracts at the theater as well.
 
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Don't call something sinful just because it has a few wrong things in it. We need to be careful what we watch yes.
Not to come off wrong but...You said something isn't sinful if there's a few wrong things in it? Elaborate, please. If these things are in any way wrong in the sight of God, is that not technically a defenition of Sin?

As for the idea that we need some kind of entertainment, that's half true. Yes, we need to be occupied or else we will technically waste our God given time here...But it is only from today's modern world that we feel a need for tv and such.

Before there was radio and tv, what did people do? Before telephones, cars, etc. No, these things are not all bad and can be very helpful at times (Tv/radio can be a wonderful witness for God that can reach anywhere in the world). But how useful is simple entertainment, other than occupying one's self for awhile?

In a sense, it can be taking our time for granted. Sure, no one can prove that Jesus never relaxed and enjoyed Himself (in purely Christian ways, of course. ;)), but do you think He would have been caught wasting precious time here watching a movie or playing a game that does not benifit God? No, He would have spent that time with God in some way. Whether learning, teaching, or helping.

Someone once said to me "Imagine yourself standing infront of God in Heaven and looking back over your life with Him, only to see that 50% of your time was spent doing trivial things rather than Godly things. How would you feel when you have to explain why you weren't doing something productive with the time He was giving you?". Granted, he worded it way better than I just did..but you get the point. In the sceme of things, how 'productive' if secular entertainment?

If you knew you were going to die in 1 week and had the choice of either helping 5 people in a setting that would make your last days very uncomfortable, or going on your dream vacation with all the luxuries..which would you take? instinctivly, we want to take the vacation cause it sounds more fun. Our human selfesh side says "But..but...I'm dying! Can't I enjoy my last time here?". We lose sight on the fact once we're in the new Kingdom that all we'll 'have' is time to enjoy the wonderful blessings of God. While we're on earth, we're on a mission. A short lifetime of work and focus on God seems like an awesome trade off for an eternity of Godly pleasure, eh? :)

To finish off, I know this is an incredible amount to ask of anyone in a modern day and age. We are so accustomed to our luxury that we see it as neccesity, rather than added frills. Many people still live in the poverty areas that have no reeal forms of entertainment, by our standards. And many of us would go insane in those settings, if against our will.

So, next time you consider going to watch that fun movie or spend hours at a game (Need to practise this one more often, myself) think for a moment if there was something else better you could be doing. Not neccisarily stressful, like work..but something else that's productive. If you don't need physical rest, try some housework while listening to music. Or pick up a book that promotes thoughts towards God, whether Bible or not. ^_^ Sure, maybe we all will fall back into some form of selfesh entertainment sometimes, but wouldn't you feel really good to go to bed and say to yourself "Hey, look..I spent an hour of my tv time praying" or "Wow, I got all the chores done! I didn't think I had time to do that today". Wouldn't that feel good?

Sarah
 
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There is nothing wrong with spending some time watching good entertainment. I'm sure in heaven we will spend time doing trivial things. If you enjoy watching T.V. and movies, and don't allow it to take up all your time then I don't see anything wrong with it. Same thing goes for reading books, listening to music, playing sports ect. Without those things, we would be bored out of our minds and would have to invent stuff to do to keeps us busy.
 
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