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Maybe i shouldn't post post in a non christians area if i have a christian icon, but i tried to be a christian and i wasn't any good so i gave up. and now i'm scared that God is angry with me. maybe he will smite me, i might get hit by lightning.
maybe i never was a christian in the first place. lots of people alk about being changed and being filled with the holy spirit. i don't think this ever happened to me. why is the gospel called good news? surely it is really bad news? it is really scarey.
i think i have a lot more to say, but it is the middle of the night and i have to go to work tomorrow. maybe god will be angry that i'm going to work on a sunday. i think he will definatly be angry that i'm not going to church. i intend to go to church tomorrow, but really i don't think i will.

lots of love, from the worst christian ever:help:
 

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Fuwari said:
Hello
Maybe i shouldn't post post in a non christians area if i have a christian icon, but i tried to be a christian and i wasn't any good so i gave up. and now i'm scared that God is angry with me. maybe he will smite me, i might get hit by lightning.
maybe i never was a christian in the first place. lots of people alk about being changed and being filled with the holy spirit. i don't think this ever happened to me. why is the gospel called good news? surely it is really bad news? it is really scarey.
i think i have a lot more to say, but it is the middle of the night and i have to go to work tomorrow. maybe god will be angry that i'm going to work on a sunday. i think he will definatly be angry that i'm not going to church. i intend to go to church tomorrow, but really i don't think i will.

lots of love, from the worst christian ever:help:

Gezz,

Get a grip. God is love and He doesn't care that you have doubts. He loves you and is patient. All that matters is that you try your best and be easy on yourself. God does not expect perfection. All He wants is a will heart. Mercy, love, patience. God is waitng. When you are ready He will accept with open arms.

Peace, Pete.
 
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Fuwari said:
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Maybe i shouldn't post post in a non christians area if i have a christian icon, but i tried to be a christian and i wasn't any good so i gave up. and now i'm scared that God is angry with me. maybe he will smite me, i might get hit by lightning.
maybe i never was a christian in the first place. lots of people alk about being changed and being filled with the holy spirit. i don't think this ever happened to me. why is the gospel called good news? surely it is really bad news? it is really scarey.
i think i have a lot more to say, but it is the middle of the night and i have to go to work tomorrow. maybe god will be angry that i'm going to work on a sunday. i think he will definatly be angry that i'm not going to church. i intend to go to church tomorrow, but really i don't think i will.

lots of love, from the worst christian ever:help:

my opinion? stop degrading yourself and your faith and you may be able to start again :) and look at everything as like, your getting closer. even if your in doubt, or skeptism. i have been there myself. be honest with yourself, be honest with God, that's the first step, dont' beat yourself up over things like this, and don't discredit that which God started in you. having a negative image of your faith and yourself, will only put your faith into shambles. i hope this helps. feel free to pm anytime if you want to talk about this stuff :) God Bless you! <><
 
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Fuwari said:
Hello
Maybe i shouldn't post post in a non christians area if i have a christian icon, but i tried to be a christian and i wasn't any good so i gave up. and now i'm scared that God is angry with me. maybe he will smite me, i might get hit by lightning.
maybe i never was a christian in the first place. lots of people alk about being changed and being filled with the holy spirit. i don't think this ever happened to me. why is the gospel called good news? surely it is really bad news? it is really scarey.
i think i have a lot more to say, but it is the middle of the night and i have to go to work tomorrow. maybe god will be angry that i'm going to work on a sunday. i think he will definatly be angry that i'm not going to church. i intend to go to church tomorrow, but really i don't think i will.

lots of love, from the worst christian ever:help:

You are not the first...

Mark 9:24
Immediately the boy's father exclaimed, "I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!"

pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get back on the Christian path - forget what is behind you, confident of Christ's power to complete a good work that He has started... Philippians 3:12-14

12Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 1:6
being confident of this, that he who began a
good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

Best thing to do would be to promise yourself to go to church on Sunday, just do that - don't worry about what might or might not happen, just get youself in the door.
 
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Fuwari said:
Hello
Maybe i shouldn't post post in a non christians area if i have a christian icon, but i tried to be a christian and i wasn't any good so i gave up. and now i'm scared that God is angry with me. maybe he will smite me, i might get hit by lightning.
maybe i never was a christian in the first place. lots of people alk about being changed and being filled with the holy spirit. i don't think this ever happened to me. why is the gospel called good news? surely it is really bad news? it is really scarey.
i think i have a lot more to say, but it is the middle of the night and i have to go to work tomorrow. maybe god will be angry that i'm going to work on a sunday. i think he will definatly be angry that i'm not going to church. i intend to go to church tomorrow, but really i don't think i will.

lots of love, from the worst christian ever:help:

No, I had that title first! I was the worst Christian ever. I was raised in church, and was SAVED. Knew it without a doubt, but I was ashamed. I denied Christ just like Peter did. I finally gave up and stopped going to church. I grew angry and bitter towards God and my whole family. Lots more to the story...Anyway, for 23 years, I church and Christian bashed my way through life. Every now and then, I would get scared, and I would try to "get back", but it never worked. Then, just over a year ago, I was sitting in a movie theatre of all places, and I had this revelation of how God saw me. I saw myself as God did. I saw all the times I had turned away from him, how I had betrayed him, just awful, awful, awful. I spent two days crying and debating with myself, and finally I surrendered. That is the key. That is the difference. I gave everything I am, everything I have, everything to the Lord. Complete, utter surrender. I held nothing back. My life changed from that moment on. I have not felt ashamed since. In fact, I cannot shut up about it. I went to work the next day and told everyone. These are the same people that I had church and Christian bashed with. The same people that I had told and listened to dirty jokes, cussed with, the whole nine yards.

Sincerely pray with all your might. Do not cease until you receive an answer. Wrestle with the Lord. Pour your heart out to Him. Tell him every fear, every point of contention. Pray that he will help your unbelief, your doubt, your fear, your whatever. Surrender all. Let nothing stand in the way. Pray to God to show you what is keeping you from Him. Then, give it over to Him. This is what changed my life, and I am happier than I have ever been in my whole life. I have peace and joy that is indescribable.

I am getting off of here, and I am going to pray for you right now.

Love in Christ,
Lisa
 
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It is okay to make mistakes while trying to be a christian, everyone makes them and no-ones perfect. I make mistakes everyday but I know I can always come back to God and he forgives me. I know you think you have done really bad stuff but no matter how bad it is God still loves you and hear this, nothing you have done or will do can make him close the door on you and don't doubt that, he loves you so much that he would and did die for you. Please come back to him and I look forward to meeting you in heaven if not here on earth!
 
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Fuwari said:
Fuwari said:
Maybe i shouldn't post post in a non christians area if i have a christian icon, but i tried to be a christian and i wasn't any good so i gave up. and now i'm scared that God is angry with me. maybe he will smite me, i might get hit by lightning.


God's not mad at you. If He didn't love you, He wouldn't have gone to such great lengths to save you, would He?

maybe i never was a christian in the first place. lots of people alk about being changed and being filled with the holy spirit. i don't think this ever happened to me.

That's possible. Maybe you weren't. But would you like to be?

What does it mean to you to be a Christian?

why is the gospel called good news? surely it is really bad news? it is really scarey.

No, it's very good news.

The Gospel is God's love letter to us. It's His plan to save us from sin and death and reconcile us to Himself.

i think i have a lot more to say, but it is the middle of the night and i have to go to work tomorrow. maybe god will be angry that i'm going to work on a sunday. i think he will definatly be angry that i'm not going to church. i intend to go to church tomorrow, but really i don't think i will.

If it makes you feel any better, if He's mad at you, then He must be mad at me, too, because I'm not going either.

I'll be working all day.

No, seriously, God's not mad and you and I don't believe that God's nearly as concerned with where you are tomorrow as He is Who's you are tomorrow.

Will you be His?


lots of love, from the worst christian ever:help:

Look, I'm a deacon. I've seen it all. Believe me, you're not the worst.
 
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Thankyou for your encouragment.

Lisa,It is helpful to know that other people also have had the same difficulties. But still i don't really know what to do. I realise that not praying, not reading the bible and not going to church are probably not helpful but I used to do these things, and if i failed at being a christian then, why would i suceed at it now?

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maybe i never was a christian in the first place. lots of people alk about being changed and being filled with the holy spirit. i don't think this ever happened to me.


Quote reply by MikeMcK
That's possible. Maybe you weren't. But would you like to be?

What does it mean to you to be a Christian?


Would I like to be a christian?
Well i'm scared of what will happen if i'm not. Yes I do want to be a Christian, but i'd rather none of this was true ad I could forget about it. What is the poit of being saved and having eternal life if the people you love aren't? How could anyone be happy in heaven if they knew the people they loved were now in hell forever?

What does it mean to me to be a christian?
Well, i think if i became christian properly something should happen, i should notice and I should be sure. and i should be changed. many people have testimonies of this.

Quote tattered saint:
my opinion? stop degrading yourself and your faith and you may be able to start again :) and look at everything as like, your getting closer. even if your in doubt, or skeptism. i have been there myself. be honest with yourself, be honest with God, that's the first step, dont' beat yourself up over things like this, and don't discredit that which God started in you. having a negative image of your faith and yourself, will only put your faith into shambles. i hope this helps. feel free to pm anytime if you want to talk about this stuff :) God Bless you! <><


I found trying to be a christian made me feel bad about myself. I don't like going to church cos it makes me feel useless and guilty. although also when i don't go i feel guilty for that. i don't need to be involved in something which tells me i'm terrible, it is not helpful.

Apparently christianity is not about do's and don'ts. we can never be good enough but it doesn't matter bcause all you have to do is feel the right way about God, other people and many other things. Well this is not good news. I can far more easily control my acions than the way i feel.........................

(if i could figure out how to i would put some kind of smiley here!)
Fuwari
 
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Fuwari said:
Would I like to be a christian?
Well i'm scared of what will happen if i'm not. Yes I do want to be a Christian, but i'd rather none of this was true ad I could forget about it. What is the poit of being saved and having eternal life if the people you love aren't? How could anyone be happy in heaven if they knew the people they loved were now in hell forever?

Everybody has the opportunity to be saved. Not everyone will take that opportunity.

I don't know exactly how our relationship in Heaven to those in Hell will work. The Bible doesn't say a lot about that.

What is does say is that right now, we only see in part. In other words, what we see and what we understand is clouded by our sin.

One day, when we've shuttled off this sin nature that we have and have been made like Christ, we're going to know the whole story perfectly. All of those things that make us say, "how could a loving God..." will be clear to us and we'll say, "Oh, now I get it!"

To me, that means that we will understand that God, in His infinite mercy, offered them salvation and that their judgement is a result of their own choice.

Now, a more positive way to look at that is to say that because I'm a Christian, I can be an example to my family and share the Gospel with them so that they can be reconciled to God and don't go to Hell.

What does it mean to me to be a christian?
Well, i think if i became christian properly something should happen, i should notice and I should be sure. and i should be changed. many people have testimonies of this.

And that's kind of what I'm getting at.

The people who have these testimonies will tell you that the change they've experienced didn't come over night. Those who say that it did are lying to you.

Our justification (that is, our salvation) is a one time affair but over and over, the Bible tells us that our justification (our being set apart and becoming more like Christ) is a long process.

If you're a Christian, you're going to sin and stumble and make the occasional ass of yourself (as I just did in another thread). That we fall and are able to get up, forgiven, and keep walking isn't a sign of weakness. It's a sign that Jesus is in us and that He is completing that work that He promised that He would.

Don't be a "do" person. Be a "done" person.

If you concentrate on what Jesus has already done for you, then you're going to find that all of those things that you think you need to do are going to take care of themselves.

Does that make any sense to you?
 
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Would I like to be a christian?
Well i'm scared of what will happen if i'm not. Yes I do want to be a Christian, but i'd rather none of this was true ad I could forget about it. What is the poit of being saved and having eternal life if the people you love aren't? How could anyone be happy in heaven if they knew the people they loved were now in hell forever?

Well, this is the importance of evangelism. By.. well.. msking a statement 'I am a Christian' then maybe you will convince those people you love that it is the right way. Christ reached us through love and there is nothin stopping us from 'copying' him. Afterall, we are supposed to be as Christ-like as possible.

What does it mean to me to be a christian?
Well, i think if i became christian properly something should happen, i should notice and I should be sure. and i should be changed. many people have testimonies of this.

Well my important message to you is NOT to expect a big flash of lightning and there God will be! Admittedly, some people have had revelations similar to this i.e. Paul. I believe that those that receive these have been given the evangelism mission, a task which Paul carried out qquiitee successfully! For the majority of us there just comes a time when you are sure of your faith. It isn't a crash bang wallop but gradually you come to be certain, almost without realising it.

I found trying to be a christian made me feel bad about myself. I don't like going to church cos it makes me feel useless and guilty. although also when i don't go i feel guilty for that. i don't need to be involved in something which tells me i'm terrible, it is not helpful.

This is not how church is supposed to be. There is a time in your faith when you do have to 'face facts' and admit that you have sinned hopelessly etc. etc. HOWEVER, the next bit says that because you have done that you are now SAVED! This is the most important message!
I may also mention that you don't have to go to church to be Christian.

Apparently christianity is not about do's and don'ts. we can never be good enough but it doesn't matter bcause all you have to do is feel the right way about God, other people and many other things. Well this is not good news. I can far more easily control my acions than the way i feel.........................

It is to a certaimn extent. It is believed by following the ten commandments etc. that it will help you to find God.
 
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Fuwari said:
What does it mean to me to be a christian?
Well, i think if i became christian properly something should happen, i should notice and I should be sure. and i should be changed. many people have testimonies of this.

Quote tattered saint:


I found trying to be a christian made me feel bad about myself. I don't like going to church cos it makes me feel useless and guilty. although also when i don't go i feel guilty for that. i don't need to be involved in something which tells me i'm terrible, it is not helpful.

Apparently christianity is not about do's and don'ts. we can never be good enough but it doesn't matter bcause all you have to do is feel the right way about God, other people and many other things. Well this is not good news. I can far more easily control my acions than the way i feel.........................

(if i could figure out how to i would put some kind of smiley here!)
Fuwari
You can't try to be a Christian. You either are born again or you are not (Read John 3). If you have been born again, great! You need to internalize this and believe that you really are a child of God. If not, you need to get born again.

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." - John 3:16

"Peter replied, 'Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.'" - Acts 2:38

"That if you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says, 'Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.' For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, 'Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.'" - Romans 10:9-13
 
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I found trying to be a christian made me feel bad about myself. I don't like going to church cos it makes me feel useless and guilty. although also when i don't go i feel guilty for that. i don't need to be involved in something which tells me i'm terrible, it is not helpful.

You need to stop feeling sorry for yourself, stand up and realize that God has lifted you out of YOUR sin because he loves you. We all have sinned so there for we all have been pulled out of our stain and loved by a God who could throw us out like last week's Kung Pow chicken. But he cares enough about us down and lonely sinners to care for us and make something great out of us that we could not do on our own!:thumbsup:
 
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maybe i never was a christian in the first place. lots of people alk about being changed and being filled with the holy spirit. i don't think this ever happened to me.

Are you sure? You seem to be pretty concerned about what God thinks of your choices.

why is the gospel called good news? surely it is really bad news? it is really scarey.

Because Christ saves us from being separated from God. What do you find scary?

i think i have a lot more to say, but it is the middle of the night and i have to go to work tomorrow. maybe god will be angry that i'm going to work on a sunday. i think he will definatly be angry that i'm not going to church. i intend to go to church tomorrow, but really i don't think i will.

The fact you care what God thinks says alot. Have you considered that Satan maybe tring to keep you from God? If you want a relationship don't give up. Keep trying. I have always said if your sick you go to the doctor. Well Christ is medicine for the soul. Any doubts or problems you have take to him in prayer. Read just a little of the Bible daily.


from the worst christian ever

Your not the only one.
 
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Hello there everyone,

reasons why the gospel is bad news:
i am evil and i'm going to hell
my family are evil and are going to hell
everyone i have loved who has already died is not resting in peace, free from their pain, but actually in hell

and the solution to this is to build a relationship with someone i can't communicate with.

i doubt any of you have a solution to this. but you all seen like nice people so hopefully you won't be angry with me for saying this......

Fuwari x
 
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Fuwari said:
Hello there everyone,

reasons why the gospel is bad news:
i am evil and i'm going to hell
my family are evil and are going to hell
everyone i have loved who has already died is not resting in peace, free from their pain, but actually in hell

and the solution to this is to build a relationship with someone i can't communicate with.

i doubt any of you have a solution to this. but you all seen like nice people so hopefully you won't be angry with me for saying this......

Fuwari x

Why do you think that you can't communicate with God?
 
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