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--Nope. That's nonsense. Was he a real-life Malkavian? That would explain it.he said that you cant get in (or maybe it was that it takes longer) if you dont have any scars.
You're a mere mortal. How can you?How can a mere mortal know what is immeasurably beyond his reach?
Wow, quite a bit has already been covered. Hopefully I can catch up and still be basically coherent.Airisu said:Alright, I'm a Wiccan and today while doing some research on Wicca I was wondering about Summerland (A Pagan heaven) vs. The Christian Heaven.
Y'know, your post *might* have happend this way: "Gee, since it's not biblical, I see Summerland as just another myth, but I'm certainly happy to describe the wonder of heaven as ..." Just a thought.StaySalty said:The honest difference between heaven and summerland is the difference between the truth and a lie.
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And this is not to harass you either. If that is the way I've come across, then I am sorry.
Oddly enough, I see Summerland as the fulfillment for that which we were created. And to say "there isn't some big event going on there" may be true in some respect (keeping in mind Pagans have a variety of views) but it is still considered by some (such as myself) as meaningful and significant.sioleabha said:Summerland doesn't sound like it has much purpose (by which I mean, there isn't some big event going on there), while heaven is a place of ultimate purpose -- fulfillment of that for which we were created, a relationship with God.
I don't entirely agree. I think one should always be mindful of the future, as long as it's not at the expense of the present. A second-grader need not be consumed with the requirements of graduating from his/her senior year of high school, but since that is the ultimate goal of attending school, it seems appropriate to at least be aware and/or mindful of it.Paulos23 said:Arguing about the difference between Summerland and Heaven is like arguing about the color of the light of the farthist star, it distracts from the now. Instead of worrying about what happens after dead maybe you should enjoy the mystery and beauty that is life.
Yes, in truth, I have no idea what really happens. I have my opinions and my beliefs and I have no reason to believe otherwise. I don't wonder, and I certainly don't worry about it. I'll find out if I'm right or wrong at the proper time, and not one moment sooner.Jerusha_Girl said:I tend to agree with Paulos, however. Nobody knows what happens after death, and to spend all of your life wondering or worrying or hoping for what happens after you die is wasting the beauty of what is around us now.
On this part, I would tend to agree.malkaviananatole said:the whole concept of the after life being unknowable is a good view, i think its absolutely right. and living in the here and now is better then dweling on the past or future...
I think this misses the point. Certainly, we can't change the past, but you can certainly *learn* from the past. Like with the future, I believe one should be mindful of the past, though primarily of the lessons learned.malkaviananatole said:...what has happened is beyond our control to change, and wishing will not make the future turn out how you want it to.
I will never give up on wishing. I keep my wishes in proper perspective, but without hopes and aspirations, life is (imho) little more than drudgery.malkaviananatole said:but i believe that sometimes, while sitting alone in the dark night, thinking of what is ahead is a good thing, dont wish cus that wont work, but you need to think on what possibilities are out there.
I don't see that as an entirely fair question. You could just as easily say that the adult world is "unknowable" to a seven-year-old child. Granted, one day that child will know, but then, the same can be said for us and the spiritual world.malkaviananatole said:after all since the afterlife, and whatever force ACTUALLY DOES control the universe, are both unknowable how can you, a mere mortal, a grain of sand in the wide spectrum of life, possible knwo anything about what actually is.
StaySalty said:The honest difference between heaven and summerland is the difference between the truth and a lie.
malkaviananatole said:...i am a malkavian...
kangitanka said:No, you're not.
And if you think you are a real malkavian, you need to read the disclaimers at the beginnings of the White Wolf books
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